TrainCollector

@sanderson1611 We venerate relics. To say this is false would go against scripture and deny that the Word became flesh. Go call your boss Netanyahu for the answer

@train_collector Are you claiming they don’t do this exact activity???

"But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death." - Proverbs 8:36

@IchimokuSatoshi Does anyone under the age of 50 use the clown emoji?

Umbilical??? What an absolute idiot you are 😂😭

@PeterJoel2024 @chrislives78 @ByJimbob We can read the successors of the Apostles…

All three are indeed false. All three rejected the Way of Jesus Christ, the Way of His Holy Ghost, in favor of the spirit of their man-made religiosity. As the true holy disciples of Jesus Christ were killed off or died out completely in the second half of the first century, the more casual believers that were left followed in the footsteps of false teachers, wolves seeking preeminence, rather than in the footsteps of Jesus himself, and man-made Christianity was born. Orthodox Christianity is based upon the doctrines of early false teachers, not born of the Spirit of Truth. Protestantism is more of the same, men who worship the doctrines of later false teachers rather than Jesus Himself. This is easy to see. Observe the current state of Christianity as a whole. A tree is always known by its fruits.

Protestant Dilemma: If Orthodoxy is true, Protestantism is false. If Orthodoxy is false, the early Christians were false and Protestanism is false. @ByJimbob point is strong

@bannedpastor This claim is so historically illiterate. Basic high school history students would realize how bad this take is. The peak of Europe is Rome and Byzantium. Guess what the dominant Religions of those Empires were?

America was built on Protestant beliefs. Orthodox and Catholics ruined Europe. Don’t let them do it here.

I can never go back to being a Protestant ever again. They rely on the Bible and deny Holy Tradition. That idea contradicts itself Constant insulting of the Mother of our God. They never really have a reason for the constant slander. I read the stories of the Martyrs who died for the Church that Christ started. To reject that Church would be spitting on the graves of the Martyrs. Zionism is a Heresy

@needGod_net I called you a retard in a previous post. But that would be offensive to the retards, because even the retards are honest on occasion.

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@sola_chad Sola Scriptura is an unbiblical practice

Anyone who refuses to hold to Sola Scriptura does so because they want to justify unbiblical practices and call it “Christianity.”

@Brandon81Hansen @PastorAwes So if you ever actually debate one of them, they will interpret those passages to fit their own doctrine. It’s your personal interpretation vs another personal interpretation. Do you understand the point I’m making?

Buddy are you okay? Muslims don’t believe Jesus was crucified… scripture literally says he was crucified. Mormons believe God was once a man who became God and there are infinite Gods… scripture literally says there is only one God and there is no other God besides me. JWs and Unitarians believe Jesus is the Father… Scripture literally denies that the Father and Son are the same person. All of their beliefs are in direct contradiction to stated scripture which is why the first two wrote their own holy books and call the original scripture corrupted, and the last two just straight up change the wording of the scripture to fit their beliefs.

Why am I a Baptist? Why not Catholicism or Orthodoxy? Because I believe the Bible. I don't care about church fathers, ecumenical councils, or creeds. I care about what the Bible says.

They still come to the same conclusion using the same scriptures, they use that scripture to back their own beliefs. It doesn’t matter whether they think it was corrupted or not. They still use it for doctrine. I’ll ask again, how do you know what books belong in the New Testament?

@train_collector @PastorAwes Muslims don’t use the same scripture. They say it was corrupted. Mormons don’t use the same scripture. They also say it was corrupted. JWs and Unitarians both use the bible, but they say it was corrupted and change words.

Church Doctrine comes from scripture, scripture is the highest authority in the church. The issue is, Muslims use the same scripture, Mormons use the same scripture, JWs use the same scripture, Unitarians use the same scriptures, etc. How can we historically know the correct interpretation and meaning of the Bible?

@train_collector @PastorAwes The authority of collect and canonize the OT was by the Pharisees. Jesus said to listen to everything they say. Jesus said to not do what they do. The Pharisees spoke scripture, but taught their own doctrines. The same is true of the Church.

@Brandon81Hansen @PastorAwes The Pharisees are not the New Covenant Church, Christ criticized corruption. He never criticized authority. Instead, he set up a new authority that still exists today

@train_collector @PastorAwes Did the Pharisees who preserved the Old Testament have the correct interpretation of scripture?

@Brandon81Hansen @PastorAwes That you can’t have the correct interpretation of scripture without the church, correct. You just refuted yourself

@train_collector @PastorAwes I thought the quote implied that heretics teach that you can’t understand scripture apart from tradition. Isn’t that what you’re teaching?

@Brandon81Hansen @PastorAwes There was One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church. Only the Orthodox and Roman Catholics have a claim to that. If you read Irenaeus you would realize he’s not anything close to a Baptist. The quote you mined for is arguing against private interpretation

@train_collector @PastorAwes He lived in the year 130… Isn’t that Catholic in your view?

@Brandon81Hansen @PastorAwes The Pharisees had the New Testament?

@train_collector @PastorAwes By the preservation of the Pharisees scribes and apostles and scribes. Whether they be heretical or not in their doctrine, the preservation of the scripture they held has lasted this whole time and will last into the future.

@Brandon81Hansen @PastorAwes I have that exact book, he condemns those who reject Apostolic succession multiple times. Good Quote mine though

@train_collector @PastorAwes Here’s a church father that makes sense.

@Brandon81Hansen @PastorAwes Again, you aren’t answering the question. The entirety of what the Bible is, how do we know we have the right scripture?

@train_collector @PastorAwes How was the OT preserved? The Pharisees. Did the Pharisees have infallible doctrine? No.

@Brandon81Hansen @PastorAwes 1. You are using the very thing in Question to prove your point, how do you know that the verse you quoted was inspired 2. How does he preserve it? We believe it was the Pillar of Truth which is the Church

@train_collector @PastorAwes I trust the promise God gave that he would preserve his word forever. That the world would pass away before his word would.

Jesus knew the law because he gave the law. I don’t think you mean to place yourself on the same level as Christ Himself. How do you know what scripture was inspired and what wasn’t. There were many debates throughout the first few centuries whether or not scripture was inspired or not. For example, Hebrews and Revelation were heavily debated on.

@train_collector @PastorAwes The same way Jesus knew the Torah was correct and preserved and yet the Pharisees were wrong about doctrine.