turn in the wind

'In the old times, the people talked to trees. And then the trees were cut, and the people went insane. And there is so much grief.'

@winter___fall yeah, I feel that about not all perceptions being welcome to be shared too. it’s too bad, in my opinion; I think there is an opportunity for us all to get clearer if everyone could be equally welcomed to share how experiences feel for them, and it is ok for it to be v different

@turninthewind definitely! for me too! i certainly felt like i was the only one in the room feeling what i was feeling. and i had just an inkling that discussion was not welcome hahah

a few weeks ago I went to ecstatic dancing that was held in a church I at least felt like I had a very somatic and embodied experience

@winter___fall you're welcome! it's nice to hear I'm not the only one maybe noticing and trying to put some kind of words to this type of experience

@turninthewind wow, thank you for sharing this. puts words to an experience i had hearing a presbyterian service yesterday the vibe was definitely “take leave of your senses and be controlled”

@spockinabeanie feeling both of these! there was a whole year of my childhood where l wanted my parents to read a fossil guide to me as my bedtime story, so fascinated by the other lifeforms and ecosystems that used to exist here, lol

@spockinabeanie you're welcome! I want to say something like, thank you for giving some of your awareness to my perspective here (which I know is not the most common) 🙏

and I don't find it nice, or joyful, or good I find it pretty unsettling and unnerving, somatically and pretty hard to be around ppl when they are doing that, tbh

it's harder to articulate, but I still think worth articulating, my full perspective which is that, i have to live and coexist around quite a lot of people where you can basically say "jesus" and imo unconsciously activate, like, a child persona, who is easily controlled

@boondlllx Yes, I definitely feel this tension in my body too 🤍

fmp there is a tension between prioritizing regulation in my own body and beholding the disregulation in the world. It's easy to stay regulated when we close ourselves off from the world's suffering. fmp self regulation is pointless if we can't use it as an engine for integration. And I'd say the recognition of being in apocalypse is to recognize what the moment is calling us to in communion.

tpot, having failed to generate any meaningful conversation on the most consequential struggle for humanity of our time, has relegated itself to the ignominious realm of cowardice. your self development has not helped you see past fear and your autism has not helped you see truthfully. truly you just want to play with your toys in peace while the world burns.

@boondlllx I agree directionally with you though about there being a lot of dysregulation shaping a lot what is happening, and that finding ways to ground / feel / clear our bodies seems to me also to be directionally the way to better outcomes

@boondlllx hmmm for me seeing the world through an apocalyptic viewpoint would be a marker to me that my body is dysregulated and I guess, imo, it’s very hard to fix a problem from inside the kind of thinking that, to me, has had a large role in creating the problem

@SurenVynn oh, I love that insight!

@turninthewind that's what happens when everything is imbued with sacredness. no tradeoffs are possible.

In George Lakoff's Metaphors We Live By, abstract concepts are understood in terms of metaphors that are simpler to understand. The example used in his book is: arguments. ARGUMENTS ➡️ WARS structure a more antagonistic encounter. ARGUMENTS ➡️ JOURNEY foster more collaboration.

religions do this, some legal frameworks do this imo claiming 'infinite value' of things is compatible with making black holes and not very compatible with life x.com/turninthewind/…

@SurenVynn yeah, this is making me think of how it's very hard in general to deal with people who claim 'black holes of infinite consideration', against which no other facts can be considered however much opposing information, it all falls into the black hole and counts for nothing

For example: • “Rights override policy” • “You can’t violate rights for utility” The implication is that all rights become moralized and tradeoffs become impossible to consider. It creates a hierarchical ordering of norms where rights are always at the top.

in fact, 'believing' or 'not believing' in gravity does not make a difference to my available moves

I don't have to 'believe in' gravity for my body to be subject to its force, always

one of my heuristics is that if I need to 'believe' in it, that's a good counter-indicator of that thing being particularly true

@nobuhojimichaan @kushnflaxseeds (I do not intend this as an intellectual response to what you are saying, although there is also much here to which I could apply intellect and like experience 🤣)

@nobuhojimichaan @kushnflaxseeds (^ this is a partial reflection or a partial response or a poem that arises for me along with a feeling that feels to me like a tone match to how I felt the "possibility plane")

i've recently become aware of what feels like a disparity between the manifestations of agency that arise in the bodies of my self, in my time : that of a human of bornean-hakka descent in so-called australia in 2026 : and the manifestations of agency that arose in the bodies of the life forms from which i derive the fruit of the seeds of life : and the manifestations of agency that arose in bodies from which i derive the fruit of the seeds of time and the seeds of that which i feel called to name "kalam" : for there r many places in time space from which to view time ' i experience this thusly : for example, in time just spent : reading /epistemic injustice '/ by miranda fricker, i meditate on what i am to write : a many colored weaving of many txts in service of a master of social work degree, and i feel my earth ancestors want me to build, or frame a structure ' to open a space for a window ' to drape a wall with a weaving ' for that is how homes were made in their time ' and bc of their home making i am blessed with a home ' i live in a structure ' i have two passports ' i am blessed with access to many journals and tomes : themselves seeds of time, some weeds, some pine, some i know by night and some by my eyes, or my fingers on the nodes of the spine : but there is nowhere that yet feels quite like home for me and mine, in these gardens ' and so i construct fences and walls and ditches and doors and moats and pikes and cannons and vaults of words ' bc the epistemics of settler colonialism r incredibly violent ime ' and their languages r v dirty ' and afaict the epistemics r shaped by power relations and reinforce power relations that r examined not in "body" but only in the spotlights and on the stages of "mind" ' and ime those who signal their virtue most charismatically often do the most harm '