Zenon Twardowicz

@LukjanRD @ShitpostRock2 Now you get the idea why Ukrainian nationalists sided with Germans before 1941 invasion

@twardowicz89 @ShitpostRock2 Wow. Who could guess that we like people who were nice to us even if they were nasty for others. You are really clever boy you.

Quiet Polish libtard, real Poles love the Japanese

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling So? It had changed people’s perception of the system. Do I need to provide you with a link again. Ukraine’s laws preceded Soviet one since 1990

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling The coup was defeated. What's the connection? Статья 30. Украинская ССР участвует в обеспечении безопасности и обороноспособности страны, оснащении Вооруженных Сил СССР всем необходимым. Another constitution article broken.

So, the US, which gave Ukraine a security guarantee when it gave up its nukes after the collapse of the Soviet Union, is telling Ukraine it will give it a security guarantee if it surrenders to Russia, which also gave Ukraine a security guarantee before it invaded Ukraine. Nuts.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling Ukrainian constitution does not include such provision. Neither does Russian. Hence you bombed to the ground Chechnya when they tried to do something like Donbas

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling Nice, so, Donbass had all the rights to leave Ukraine because of the 2014 coup.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling My bad. You’re right here. Which part of it was violated by Ukraine?

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling Процесс выхода союзных республик из СССР был законодательно определен Законом СССР от 3 апреля 1990 года «О порядке решения вопросов, связанных с выходом союзной республики из СССР».

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling x.com/twardowicz89/s…

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling And from the Ukrainian SSR Constitution: "Украинская ССР обеспечивает за Союзом ССР в лице его высших органов государственной власти и управления права, определенные статьей 73 Конституции СССР."

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling Since 1990 Republic laws preceded Soviet laws en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parade_of…

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling Also: Статья 71. Законы СССР обязательны на территории Украинской ССР.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling That was before the coup. And in Ukraine before second referendum. No law said you couldn’t held two referendums

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling The majority of the USSR voted to keep the USSR, that is it. 1991, March 17.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling Constitution says that they had a right to leave, but no law said how. So they quit any way they liked. They didn’t break any laws, so by definition it couldn’t have been illegal

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling None of the republics followed the process constitutionally, that is it was illegal.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling Invoking your legal right is not a treason. Also Kravchuk did not act on his own merit. He demanded a referendum and majority voted to leave. The only crime here is that we have delusional stupid Nazis like yourself

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling I lived through all that. . Most what matters and is obvious is that Gorbachev, Eltsin, Sushkevich, Kravchuk committed state treason. All the rest is a consequence. Including Ukraine's eventual banderite regime under the West patronage.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling It wasn’t. All republics according to Soviet constitution were within their rights to regain sovereignty and leave USSR. Thats why it’s called a confederation. Unlike federate countries like USA, where states cannot leave

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling Are you trying to convince me that the breakup of the USSR was a criminal act with Russian Federation elite traitors taking part in it? If it's the case that would be something we can agree on.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling And it has nothing to do with the topic of this discussion, nor is it mentioned in the article above

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling "The $3 billion debt often mentioned in 2013-2015 was a newer, separate loan from Russia to Ukraine, not the original Soviet-era debt"

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling I simply gave you the first link from Google. Here’s another one. You speak Russian? I can give you a link to Russian state media saying the same archive.kyivpost.com/article/conten…

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling Says someone posting BS arguments from Los Angeles Times.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling So? The same can be said about Russia. The same one who declared sovereignty from USSR in 1990 and now celebrates that day as their Indepence day en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declarati…

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling Most of the today's Ukraine's territory was a result of the Soviet Union administrative borders.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling 🇺🇸 is a federation. USSR was confederation. Each republic had a constitution in which the first line said that it was a country with their own government, laws, communist party and borders EU also doesn’t have customs inside single market. Doesn’t mean that 🇫🇷 isn’t a country

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling No borders, no customs, central economic planning, one country indeed. US - union of countries?

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling This whole discussion is about you posting non-sense and then not being man enough to admit that

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling The whole thing was about that.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling I have you the link to read. Ukraine requested its assets first. Russia stole them and paid Ukrainian share of the debts instead. But Ukraine never agreed to that and didn’t ratify zero option agreement. And it still legally challenges Russia over that in courts

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling Bullshit again. Ukraine paid 0 of the USSR debts. Read about 1994 zero option agreement.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling USSR was a union of countries. Ukraine was a country had been a member of UN since 1945. And by law Ukraine is a state successor of the USSR. The same as Russia. The only difference is that West gave Russia all the Soviet seats in international organisations

@twardowicz89 @TomHoefling You lie again. It was not designed in Ukraine designed in the USSR, SOVIET KB Yuzhnoe, Ukrainian SSR. USSR was one country.

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling Ukraine didn’t sign non-profilitation treaty until 1994. So it was not a subject to it before that

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling 🇷🇺 didn’t inherit all USSR debt. It made made deals with 13 republic to assume their share of the debt in exchange for their share of the Soviet assets. 🇺🇦 didn’t sign such deal and demanded audit first. 🇷🇺 refused and stole 🇺🇦 share of debts/assets latimes.com/archives/la-xp…

@ivor_2012 @TomHoefling You can’t fire anything from Moscow. You need authorisation from personnel on the ground. Which became part of UAF since 1993, when Ukraine assumed them legal ownership. And these weapons were also partially designed in Ukraine by KB Yuzhoe. So overall you’re a racist liar

@TomHoefling Idiot, all the controls were in Moscow. You have no idea how nuclear weapons are operated, maintained, and all the related. Ukraine did not own them for one day.