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@ungodlylibel

Phoenix, AZ Katılım Aralık 2021
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GeorgeAlbuquerque
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Chocado que o namorado dele é maior que ele 🔥🔥🔥🫣🫡🫢
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@gobshitechris To everyone saying he deleted the messages, it comes up in the chat as “you deleted this message”. He would’ve had to photoshop this to remove his side of the chat.
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Chris
Chris@gobshitechris·
Told a twink I didn’t want to have a conversation cuz it was late, I went to bed and woke up to him crashing tf out 😭
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UL@ungodlylibel·
@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju So far off topic? Bro you’ve been clutching at straws for like a day. You had to bring up irrational numbers at one point. None of this is saving face it’s just me trying to explain basic maths to you like you’re 5yo.
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
@ungodlylibel @ayeejuju I would have stopped before proving p(H)=1/2 in both cases, but you called me names, and now look at you going so far off topic to try and save some face when you could have just been nice.
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@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju The number of places where it’ll hit isn’t equal to the number of places where it’ll miss. If you wanna take this to its logical end you can say there are trillions upon trillions of places in the universe where the kid could miss and relatively few where it would hit. Not equal
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
@ungodlylibel @ayeejuju No. It has two outcomes. Hit or not hit. Where it gets hit makes no difference. The math is p(h)=1/2. For both.
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UL@ungodlylibel·
@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju (2) you can’t add up all those outcomes of hits and misses and say they equal out to 50/50 because you can’t count them.
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
@ungodlylibel @ayeejuju They are exactly the same. P(H)=1/2. What am I expressing here? The probability of a coin landing on heads on any given flip, or the probability of the kid hitting the pinata on any given swing? And to make this even more fair, the kid is blindfolded when he flips the coin.
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UL@ungodlylibel·
@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju They’re not the same thing. Unlike the piñata, the coin toss results will even out to 50/50. That’s why coin tosses are used in games as a fair way to give advantages. No one has ever said “let’s see if this kid hits a pinata to decide who gets the ball first.”
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
@ungodlylibel @ayeejuju One kid who has a chance of hitting it or not hitting it on every swing. One coin that has a chance of landing on tails or not on every flip. They are the same thing.
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@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju 😂😂😂 sure you could but that won’t happen every time. The probabilities will eventually even out. That is not the same for the pinata. It’s mathematical inevitability versus random chance.
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
@ungodlylibel @ayeejuju I could flip a coin 10 times and get tails 9 times too. I guess a coin toss isn't 50/50 then.
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UL@ungodlylibel·
@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju The difference with the coin toss is that the results will split 50/50. The piñata results are not guaranteed to split that way. They might. Or one kid might miss every time. Or another might hit it every time.
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
Hitting a pinata is not skill. It's chance. It's like flipping a coin. Heads, hit. Tails, don't hit. There is no third option. Everyone is blindfolded and faced in The direction of the pinata. They can either hit it, or not hit it. Even better. There can be one kid and a pinata. That one is guaranteed to hit it no matter what. On what swing will he hit it? Anybodies guess. BUT, on every swing there is a chance he will hit it or he won't hit it, which is no different than that kid flipping a coin. Now what?
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UL@ungodlylibel·
@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju It is skill, it depends on the strength of the swing and the handling of the bat. I don’t know how many more times I can say that just because something has two possible results doesn’t mean those two results are equally likely. A/B does not equal 50/50.
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@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju The only time it would be 50/50 is if there were two kids and one was randomly chosen to hit it. Each kid had a 50% chance of being chosen.
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
Each kid has an equal chance of hitting the pinata since they are blindfolded. There are two options. They hit it, they don't. The chance of them hitting it has nothing to do with how many kids there are. Which kid hits it out of the 10 kids is a different set out of odds. Same thing for baseball. The chance of any batter hitting any pitch at their at bat is different than if they will have a chance to bat in any given inning. Who is picked first to swing at the pinata, and their chance of hitting it when it's their turn is not the same thing. You didn't even frame the problem right in the first place, lmao.
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@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju And for clarity I don’t know the odds of a seed sprouting an apple or carrot. That’s my entire point. You can’t comment on probabilities that you don’t know. You’re saying there’s a 50% chance for things that don’t have a 50% chance, simply because they may or may not happen.
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
How would you know what makes sense or not when your primary math system has irrational numbers? You think the Universe would use a math system that features numbers that go on infinitely? The Universe doesn't even use the number 0. Things happen or they don't. You think nature is like, "What are the odds of this seed sprouting an apple tree?" when dealing with a carrot seed?
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UL@ungodlylibel·
@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju My “preferred math” I.e. the one that makes no sense but says you’re right.
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
My fault, I see the folly of my ways now. We are using different maths. My preferred math uses 4 base, doesn't use 0, and uses shapes and letters instead of numbers. It's when I start communicating in Earth "Metric" that things get confusing for me. It has to do with irrational numbers. Because they exist in Earth Math, it makes the whole thing irrational to me. In the real world where the quantum meets the classical, only 1 thing matters, and that is what actually happened (A), and everything else is what didn't happen (B). Odds are for gamblers, and I'm not a betting type.
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
It is though, and you see it your way, and I see it my way. You are trying awfully hard to get me to see it your way, but I'm not going to. I see it my way, and I'm perfectly ok with you not seeing it my way. Your odds of me seeing it your way are 0.00%, because I am either going to A. see it your way, or B. Not see it your way. And this is a type B case.
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UL@ungodlylibel·
@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju But you can’t say that that is 50/50 unless you know the actual probabilities. You’re essentially using 50/50 as shorthand for “might happen, might not.” That doesn’t mean each outcome is 50% likely, which is what 50/50 means.
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
Pinatas are a birthday party game usually, and the kid's who birthday it is, usually gets to swing first. If that kid breaks it open on the first try, then A happened on the first kid up. If not, it's whoever was next in line. Either way, every kid gets to eat candy when the pinata is broken open.
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UL@ungodlylibel·
@TheGhostofThoth @ayeejuju This is not subjective. It has nothing to do with the “way you see things”. It’s objective math. Again, yes you may either win the lottery or you might not. The only time that would be a 50/50 scenario is if there are only two lottery tickets for sale.
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Not-him@TheGhostofThoth·
And this goes all the way back to the original post. Some of us see it one way, some of us see it the other way. When I buy a lottery ticket for the billion dollar jackpot, I either won when the numbers are drawn, or I didn't. Other people like to talk about the odds of being hit by a plane that has been struck by lightning twice as more likely happening than any one person winning the lottery. For me, it's a 50/50 A/B scenario. For others, they like to think they are lucky enough to beat the odds they are so apparently aware are against them.
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