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Vadym Kov
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Vadym Kov
@vadym_80
I am new to this platform Rebuilding the layer between your code and your release confidence Making sure AI does what you expect Integrating AI in QA/AQA
Katılım Şubat 2023
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@icanvardar I like how others try to support claude structure (skills, agents, etc). So it will be easier for people to switch
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@Amank1412 while waiting for an LLM - I am writing another prompt in another LLM terminal session 😃
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I just finished vibecoding a Saas app we pay $99/mo for.
It took me just 5 full working days.
I worked 14 hours a day for just 5 days but it was all worth it.
It has a few bugs I still cannot get rid of, but I am going to spend a few weekends fixing them.
My family will understand.
And the cost of running it is just $75/mo in AI tokens
But its so worth it
vibecoding is pure awesomeness
and saas is dead... almost forgot
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@NoahKingJr Think about creating a product that can be used by other AI products (not people)
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So why all the above can’t work with another step up the semantic expression ladder?
We had it already multiple times in our lives, and we were ok with it. And this is what @unclebobmartin trying to say, from what I understand.
And he clearly said in some other posts, that we should own structure, architecture, tests, etc.
For me it seems like we are talking about a little different things.
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@vadym_80 @unclebobmartin Accountability and ethics are the answer to all the questions. It is not a matter of being better vs not better, more reliable vs less reliable. Engineering goes beyond typing words. Engineering encompasses things which can’t fit the “I don’t review” mindset
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AIs are just another step up the semantic expression ladder. We initially expressed our semantics in binary, then assembler, then Fortran, then C, then Java, then Python, etc. AI is just the next step up that same old ladder.
And when you take that step, nothing else changes. You are still expressing behavioral semantics. You still need to express structural semantics. All the old principles still apply. You still have to be concerned about design and architecture.
And even though the syntax allows informal statement, you cannot abandon formalism. When you express behavior you need a formal way to enforce the behavior you want. I use Gherkin for this. It seems to work pretty well.
Consider that Gherkin is written in triplets of Given/When/Then. Each of those GWT triplets is a transition of a state machine. A full suite of Gherkin triplets is a formal description of the finite state machine that represents the behavior of the application.
Other formalisms that matter are things like module dependency graphs, testing constraints, complexity constraints, and many others.
This step up the semantic expression ladder provides you with an enormous amount of options. But you'd better choose those options wisely!
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@EdmilsomCarlos @unclebobmartin It seems like you might be making assumptions about what we think regarding engineering, which could be a form of cognitive bias.
Unfortunately, I didn’t receive answers to my questions
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@vadym_80 @unclebobmartin You guys think engineering is just typing a bunch of words on a specific sequence using a keyboard - that’s a fundamental misconception
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@EdmilsomCarlos @unclebobmartin do you trust it more? Why?
Why do you think some John will have enough coding knowledge according to your expectations?
why do you think some John has enough knowledge and it is better write in some Python/Java, but not C or assembler?
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@vadym_80 @unclebobmartin Are you you putting human knowledge and accountability to check?
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@EdmilsomCarlos @unclebobmartin Why do you trust some John (you even don’t know) who wrote the code manually?
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@unclebobmartin @unclebobmartin would you fly on an airplane whose navigation software was never reviewed by engjneers, but entirely done using AI via Gherkin instead? Would you trust your family life on a medical machine whose telemetry software was also done the same way?
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