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@flordecerezoooo their interactions feel refreshingly human

One of the main reasons why i think gojohime works is because utahime is one of the few people who never saw gojo as a we@p0n. And probably an unpopular opinion, but i think even geto saw gojo as a we@p0n at least once (in the kfc scene)

@yaoilover8970__ @kaoru_san22 awwwwwww

@valsrice @kaoru_san22 I don't I prefer to be myself. Except if my wife, i love hee

Ivan being only attracted to till is all the proof this fandom needs to know he's gay meanwhile mizi literally said she hates the idea of a man and a woman being together, and is so clearly in love with a woman but somehow she's a bisexual? She's a canon lesbian and only that!!

@images_i_hate2 just like the owl house

Mouthwashing is one of those medias we consume that SHOULD NOT have a fandom.

@Vanguard161 @kaoru_san22 she's definitely sapphic because we've seen her attraction to sua, but never explicit confirmation that she has zero attraction to men. an asexual person would most likely also find what that boy said to be gross (or really, any woman—it was very misogynistic).

@valsrice @kaoru_san22 Lesbian = only sexually attracted to women Sapphic = can be also attracted to women Mizi is *only* attracted to a woman. And that woman is Sua. Please refer back to the fact that you're once again demeaning Mizi literally saying she finds sexual interactions with men gross.

don't argue with stupid people bruh they'll drag you down to their level and try to win with the home advantage

@_Chuunyah @ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 woahh that's a huge leap in logic. first two, yes. i think any woman should be disgusted by that actually! as for the third point... no, that doesn't automatically correlate. being disgusted by misogyny ≠ not being interested in men at all.

@valsrice @ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 So u agree that she’s disgusted by his expectations? In him expecting her to be with a man bcuz guys and girls can’t just be friends? As in her not being interested in men at all due to her response “that’s gross”?

@ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 can you quote to me where i said that?

@valsrice @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 Mf you said that some implicit material can be explicit enough that it’s canon. In a case like w Mizi, shit be ware cuz we can’t get lesbian characters. Especially cuz said character probs doesn’t know about lesbian label in itself. Even tho that’s what she is.

@_Chuunyah @ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 "this guy is misogynistic!" if they don't have a term for it, or recognize it as a concept, but that doesn't change that she can be disgusted by his expectations nonetheless.

@_Chuunyah @ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 so, you're saying you agree that his statement is misogynistic? then how does the world not having "misogyny" mean anything? do you think that a concept needs to be recognized in order for others to feel disgusted by its components? yes, she wouldn't be thinking +

@ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 "i don't have to prove shit [...]" because you have nothing to work with? it's okay to be wrong. debates go nowhere with one person spewing vitriol and their own opinions. show me the facts or don't. it's fine if you can't, considering they don't exist. 🤷

@valsrice @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 This shit is so fucking embarassing cuz it’s basic common knowledge It’s literally not even implicit in the story. I don’t have to prove shit to someone who pretends to be a fan of this series. Get a job my lord

@ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 the argument is not based off of my "cherry-picked" interpretations, rather, i'm arguing against the idea that your interpretations are canon—which, they aren't. if you believe i'm not adhering to source material, provide me where the material stated she is a lesbian.

@valsrice @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 You’re not even strict to the source material 😂 Says the one with the weak arguments. You started this thread. Your only argument is interpretation this interpretation that (yet is cherry picked and inconsistent). Shit you just came here to argue. I doubt u even watched it

@ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 can you show me where it was proven that till was in love with ivan?

@valsrice @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 Not only that but I saw your “till didn’t like like Ivan” take Genuinely you didn’t watch the show or try to understand it. Your simplicity — lack therefor of any nuance — won’t change that your arguments are shallow.

@ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 my argument only goes strictly off of the source material. you're the one making claims, so you either need to back up those claims or have no merit. if you aren't desperate to prove anything, why do you keep jumping around so many different weak attempts at arguments?

@valsrice @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 Yet you can’t even collect one piece of evidence apart from your cherry picked “interpretation” argument. It’s genuinely useless to argue w someone like you. You can’t even argue with the few points I mentioned. I do not have to prove anything, especially when you pick n choose

@ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 chop chop less crying emojis more collecting evidence for your argument

@valsrice @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 The way it was shown to you 😭 shit I don’t think y’all even read the comics or watch the episodes 😭 Not only that but Till being a clear example of the trope of the guy who falls inlove w a lesbian. (Which fun fact: is a trope)

@_Chuunyah @ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 HELLO? LOL omg, his statement in and of itself was misogynistic. would you say it isn't? 😭 i can't prove that THAT'S what disgusted mizi 100% for sure, just as it can't be proven that she was disgusted because "she's a lesbian".

@valsrice @ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 We cannot argue that this is “her being disgusted by a misogynistic boy” bcuz misogyny doesn’t exist in ALNST , unless you can show me that this is Mizi being disgusted by him being misogynistic towards her ( this by default would also include her lesbianism)

@_Chuunyah @ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 would a non-lesbian not be disgusted by those expectations placed on them by a sexist boy? not sure how this relates to the debate, again. no singular person can claim what is 100% in a non-explicit topic.

@valsrice @ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 Mizi is 100% a lesbian, we don’t have to be told this because it’s implied. Unlike Hyuna( who shows attraction towards Luka, and is overly affectionate towards Mizi) Mizi never has these kind of interactions with men Infact, she’s disgusted by even being with one

@_Chuunyah @ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 that's your own interpretation. unfortunately, a singular fan does not get to be the speaker of what interpretations are canon or not—neither you nor i have that right. all interpretations within the vague matter are valid opinions.

@valsrice @ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 As someone who is bisexual and aroace, Mizi is neither of these. Not everything has to be said straight in the readers face for them to understand it, I fear you simply can’t comprehend stuff on your own without needing the author to reassure you on everything that’s said 1/2

@ClownHearts_ @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 "suffer under society because of their lesbianism" can you show me where this happened in alien stage

@valsrice @ftmtartali @karii_nwn @kaoru_san22 OFC they have more than their sexuality?? But we’re talking about that rn?? Bc you started it? You can’t just run out of arguments and say “but they’re more than just queer”?? OFC THEY ARE NO. ONE. SAID. OTHERWISE. Me saying some issues they have is bc of it, doesn’t change it