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@walmas

lets put our lives in common// face challenges together// steadily accumulate small realities// reassemble livable worlds from the ruins of this one 🏴🌱

Austin, Tejas Katılım Nisan 2009
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jae holzman@jaeporeon·
something is shifting in the conservative air on data centers
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ebeneazy@EbenZergaw·
@walmas @felpix_ I was looking at the marginal water usage per prompt and not the total water used for training should have disclosed that earlier
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felpix@felpix_·
america uses 15x more water on its lawns than it does on all of its data centers driving a gas car is 10x the per capita electricity consumption of all u.s. data centers in defense of the data center on substack
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@VictorishB123 @felpix_ What about the combined cycle gas turbines used by most hyperscale data centers to provide power? Massive water use there? Can’t exclude energy from water use. Many closed loop systems still rely on evaporative cooling towers as well
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Crosspatch-ish 🇺🇸@VictorishB123·
@felpix_ The biggest consumer of water in a modern data center is watering its lawn and that consumed by the restrooms and break room. The cooling systems are closed loop and do not consume water daily.
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@EbenZergaw @felpix_ How many burgers equal a training run for an 10 trillion parameter model? And should people be eating that many burgers when the ecological toll of cattle ranching is so high ?
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ebeneazy@EbenZergaw·
@felpix_ Yeah the water argument is stoopid I ran the math one weekend and found that someone who eats 10 burgers a year has 403x the water footprint of a daily ChatGPT user
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@mattyglesias nuanced take, genuine question: How much do you suggest we ask to get paid to raise our children next to a 4 gigawatt gas plant that regularly turns on diesel generators? What is the price we should put on the years of life cut short for ourselves and our community members?
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Matthew Yglesias
Matthew Yglesias@mattyglesias·
I am skeptical of the data center NIMBYs and incredulous at the extremist pro-data center posts from some of the tech guys on here. If the facilities are economically lucrative, cut a deal with locals to make it worth their while. This shouldn't be a huge thing.
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Dylan Baddour
Dylan Baddour@DylanBaddour·
The Trump administration today waived dozens of environmental and public health laws to speed construction of border barriers and roads through 60 miles of the Rio Grande Wild and Scenic River in Texas, a protected stretch running through the Big Bend region
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Ben Inskeep
Ben Inskeep@Ben_Inskeep·
🚨SHOCKING🚨: Amazon proposes an extra 414 backup diesel generators at its New Carlisle, IN data center complex. This brings the total for Project Rainier to 909 backup diesel generators totaling >2,400 MW. It will store more than 6.1 million gallons of diesel fuel onsite.🤯
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Amazon is asking permission to destroy 5 acres of wetlands and nearly 1 mile of streams as part of its resubmitted proposal to add 14 data center buildings at a third site at its sprawling New Carlisle, IN campus. Public comment is due June 12.

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If AI companies are so compute starved, why is it that XAI was able to part with 300 MW (even after announcing massive training runs) for their competitor? And how is it that this paltry amount of compute allowed Anthropic to double their rate limit?
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Ed Zitron
Ed Zitron@edzitron·
the current flood of data centers is nothing to do with "the internet or modern computing and communication." AI data centers are not making the internet faster or more-available. They are there to offer inference for companies that won't exist in two years
Jeremy Horpedahl 🥚📉@jmhorp

People will say "but we get something useful from watering almonds... Almonds! What do we get from data centers?" Umm, we get the Internet, and modern computing and communication? economistwritingeveryday.com/2026/05/13/the…

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Silicon Valley Fodder
Silicon Valley Fodder@Playerinthgame·
The NAACP filed a lawsuit against xAI in April 2026, alleging it illegally operates over two dozen gas turbines at its Southaven, Mississippi data center without proper air permits But in Northern Virginia, hyperscale AI datacenters get away with using eight gas turbines per bldg
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Texas Observer@TexasObserver·
"My community was afraid that the violence we saw on our screens could soon be replicated here. The council decided to be proactive & look for tangible ways to deprive the mass deportation machine of the local infrastructure on which it so heavily relies." texasobserver.org/san-marcos-cit…
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molly taft@mollytaft·
while we're talking about gas turbines, the EPA this week quietly made it a lot easier for hyperscalers to start building gas infrastructure while they are waiting for their air permit approvals, which puts a lot of pressure on state agencies to approve: insideclimatenews.org/news/11052026/…
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KUT Austin
KUT Austin@KUT·
Texas' booming data center industry could dramatically increase pressure on the state's water supply in the coming years, according to new research from the University of Texas at Austin. kut.org/energy-environ…
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Bo@PlaceboWalrus·
When 6,000-8,000 people get dumped in your town of 133,000 and property owners start tripling rent on their current tenants when their lease is up ……this is the result:
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Silicon Valley Fodder
Silicon Valley Fodder@Playerinthgame·
A single 9 GW AI datacenter like Kevin O’Leary’s planned Stratos monstrosity in Box Elder County Utah will use as much electricity as 7 million active, primary American households, which is 5.3% (roughly 1 in every 19) of all occupied residences in the US
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