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@sd_marlow @anilkseth @Plinz @aran_nayebi Great point! Won’t the lines begin to blur between artificial and organic though? Because in order to create something. Conscious you’d just get closer and closer to a neuron which is biological. Idk

@anilkseth @watdohell @Plinz @aran_nayebi "materiality of the brain matters for its function" - It took a few billion years for evolution to build high-level functionality from a single element. The complexity and orchestration could never happen all at once. But the material itself doesn't matter.

Disclaimer: AI consciousness is far from settled. The strong claim that AI couldn't be conscious without being biological doesn't follow from neuroscience. Brains are physical systems; if causal organization is what matters, then implemented nonbiological systems remain in play.

@sd_marlow @anilkseth @Plinz @aran_nayebi Yes essentially, most of the time when I see Anil speak about this on a lower level, he says that silicon could never metabolize. I think a key point of his perspective is metabolism playing a role in conscious experience.

@anilkseth @watdohell @Plinz @aran_nayebi Does your whole claim come down to non-biological systems can't simulate the complexity of biological systems well enough to function as biological systems? You're just saying that the AI industry has been doing consciousness (research) wrong, and many would agree. I agree!

@sd_marlow @anilkseth @Plinz @aran_nayebi I thought he was referring to bacterium and plant life maybe? Considering those are living but not conscious in the way we understand it.

@watdohell @anilkseth @Plinz @aran_nayebi Seth seems to think consciousness is a physical property of brains, but that not all brains create consciousness. So, I'm asking him what sets human brains apart from other animals.

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Evolution is scientifically very disputed. It’s a theory, not a fact.

@sd_marlow @anilkseth @Plinz @aran_nayebi Why would non-human brains lack “something” that relates to consciousness?

@anilkseth @Plinz @aran_nayebi So your argument boils down to a biological substrate contributing "something" to the process that a digital substrate can't? Have you identified that process in human brains that non-human brains are lacking?

@meatheadmusings @randallwcarlson Honestly, that is a difficult question to answer. We keep finding records that continue to date back the existence of the Homo-Sapiens even further. I think that the idea that civilization sprung from a masculine ideal has a very heavy shade of western cultural bias.

@watdohell @randallwcarlson When do you believe civilization began? I guess our framing here is important. Was the beginning of this civilization patriarchal or matriarchal in nature?

The latest skeletal evidence places anatomically modern humans on Earth somewhere between 180,000 and 200,000 years ago. That is approximately 7,000 generations of people biologically identical to us - with the same brains, the same cognitive capacity, and presumably the same drive to organise, build, and innovate. And yet, by the conventional account, civilisation only appeared in the last few hundred generations. The question Randall Carlson raises is not rhetorical. It is one of the most uncomfortable in all of science. How is it that across all those long generations, nothing we would recognise as civilisation took root and flourished? The most parsimonious answer, Randall argues, may not be that civilisation simply hadn't started yet. It may be that it had - and that what we are living in now is not the origin of human civilisation, but its reboot.

@meatheadmusings @randallwcarlson Dude you’re literally implying that civilization wasn’t born until man stopped worshipping female idols, yet the worship of a female idol implies a civilization/group of believers already established, its a non starter.

@watdohell @randallwcarlson I’m all ears, enlightened one, give me your take on the original post.

@meatheadmusings @randallwcarlson @Whodaleewho1 Yes, the absence of slop on my relatively new X account indicates I indeed try nowhere else in any capacity. Again, you’re retarded.

@watdohell @randallwcarlson @Whodaleewho1 Yes, you don’t write anything. You’re a retard that doesn’t even try. I’d argue, that’s even worse.

@meatheadmusings @randallwcarlson @Whodaleewho1 True but I didn’t write that tweet..

@watdohell @randallwcarlson @Whodaleewho1 Admittedly! I have bad news though, so are you …

@meatheadmusings @randallwcarlson @Whodaleewho1 Retard

I wonder if the default state of man is a boring animal, like the rest. Possibly we’ve experienced a glitch, a great glitch. Some ancient man decided to ditch feminine idols and instead pray to great & thunderous male deities. They said, “this communal hut and nature idol is boring, I’d like to see the top of the mountain.” A single thought sparks an alteration. What if? Civilization begins. A man crawls out, he crawls up!

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@mattvanswol That's the problem with the GOP. There are Democrats running unopposed in primaries all over the country, and the GOP is doing nothing about it.

🚨#BREAKING: Lakeshia Alston, the woman running for election as a REPUBLICAN in North Carolina's Senate District 22 in a full hijab... ...and was revealed to actually be a LIFE-LONG DEMOCRAT RAN COMPLETELY UNOPPOSED AND IS NOW THE GOP CANDIDATE!!!! WHAT?!!!!

@baba_Omoloro Its an AI article you moron

If by any chance you are reading this, read it connotatively. This is a critical thinker.