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learning to draw 1800mr juri 1800mr viper

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@TopHammy @birufgc nah, I get the intention but yes we're never gonna agree because of a difference in perspective. Juri's stocks aren't as valueable as Jamie's drinks, a fireball in this MU and many others isn't worth the risk, but I get where you're coming from
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@what_wha_ @birufgc If you don’t see the value in what I’m saying due to actually having tried it then, okay! You don’t have to listen to me, I’m an entry grandmaster Jamie at best anyway so you are functionally better and know better and play the character. This is at best just suggestion.
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@TopHammy @birufgc She can, and she would be stuck in recovery for the sonic blade, forcing her to parry it. That is if the guile did boom into sonic blade, if he did boom into dr, she would die. In essence, you're putting yourself in unecessary risk for a stock.
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@what_wha_ @birufgc Like is it THAT slow in this scenario? That’s the part I don’t know or speak on because I do not play Juri. On reaction without any usage of parry, jumping, drive impact etc yeah I can certainly imagine she blows up for that, but assuming you’re mixing, do you still die?
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@TopHammy @birufgc I think you're not visualizing what it means to whiff a special move in front of your opponent. Just like one could DR on reaction to Jamie drinking, one can react to Juri's stock. Neither character has a way to answer to FB DR at round start other than PP
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@TopHammy @birufgc because Jamie isn't a stock character, he's a lvl up character, their archetypes aren't the same. Yes you have to give up oki to drink, and you're rewarded with tools that makes it easier to get another knockdown. Juri is a linear rushdown character, ofc she has better pressure
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@TopHammy @birufgc uhh no, objectively she doesn't, you have divekick and bakkai. Sure it's locked behind drinks but they are actual tools (Before you say it, Juri's dk is more commited than jamie's). Store isn't viable in any scenario, but I guess you won't realize it unless you see it for urself
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hammy@TopHammy·
@what_wha_ @birufgc You laugh but your character certainly has more leeway than mine in this scenario because of such a tool, you think I wouldn’t love a tool that leaves me open but I can mix and match with other tools at my leisure to get past a fireball?
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@TopHammy @birufgc it's hard to pull off and my opponent is still a human that makes mistakes. honestly the clip is just silly lol, the guile player did the right thing, then Juri ended up adapting and winning the set the only thing that tickled my brain was using the stock to counter fb lol
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@TopHammy @birufgc Meh, it's not all black and white, I can agree with you. I would not be as stubborn as that Juri, but sometimes you need to challenge stuff like that if you know it's hard to pull of. If someone did double PP on my od fb, I would still keep throwing them during the set because-
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@TopHammy @birufgc brother this is something that not even competitive guile players do consistently 😭
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@what_wha_ @birufgc Sure man, okay fine whatever I guess just gamba jump every skilled guile’s blade or boom setup because he’s totally too far to drive rush and make the timing for flash kick man you got it big bro
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@birufgc @TopHammy I just pointed out that I think it's silly that people still think that light store clashing against fireballs does anything. imagine the situation but instead of Juri, a ryu player answers to a fireball with their own fireball when it's already on their face. How's that useful?
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@birufgc @TopHammy sonic blade causes knockdown on hit, you can't 'take the hit'. If it where a sonic boom, then yes. Or, PP os into DR or jump as a read to another boom. Also yes I don't get why people are going 'Juri bad', this is just a guile player being really good
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@birufgc @TopHammy If you wanna even count it as a "tool", yeah. No Juri above plat is gonna use light stock to clash against a fb, not even in burnout or in a chip scenario. You either jump or PP os
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@TopHammy @birufgc the juri player is doing the right thing, they are jumping in reaction to the backdash, not the sonic blade. Guile shouldn't have charge at that movement, what Dagger is doing is impressive and very hard to do, that's why the Juri kept jumping: "No way he can pull that off again"
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@what_wha_ @birufgc More predictable in the sense that you’re goading him into trying to move in and punish something you may or may not do. You gain free agency by “exposing” yourself.
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@TopHammy @birufgc big 2026 and people still think that whiffing a 34f move when the fireball is already in your face (the opponent already recovered 10f ago and DR is a thing) is an actual tool
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@birufgc If the “discourse” is that she doesn’t have the tools to get past this viable dorky ass gimmick capcom desperately wants to maintain I should mention that she can just absorb the fireball with her stock-kick thing and make the guile play around trying to punish it
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@elliesbackagain Poke him into the corner, walk him down bit by bit. Eventually he will try to jump out or start parrying to protect his drive, that's when you start mixing in throws and shimmies It's gonna be slow and boring but that's their gameplan, bore you to death
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@ElAngryBird8 @birufgc True, that's not the main issue now that I realize. I think the issue is the accumulation of constant disappointments Capcom has been delivering. They cut WT content, they cut stages, they don't balance the game, and now they deliver a very extreme and polarizing dlc pass
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Freddy Sosa@ElAngryBird8·
@what_wha_ @birufgc Street Fighter 5 quite literally dropped a season with 5 new comers and only Akuma returning. Not the first time this happens and most of the newcomers that dropped with Akuma became loved characters
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Biru@birufgc·
Yall remember that the old characters you like were once newcomers as well 🙂‍↕️🧎🏽‍♂️‍➡️
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@Vollizie @birufgc Yes, but not everything has to be black and white, doing a full newcomer season and a full returning character season is polarizing. I like newcomers, I love aki and JP, but I don't want a full season of them
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@what_wha_ @birufgc Yeah and S3 was all returning characters. Bout time they focused on new faces.
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@hereticmagicman What's your take on the Juri MU? I've spent this week playing Ingrid (took her to 1800) and I honestly don't feel like it's that bad of a MU for Juri. Sure you can't throw fireballs in this MU but besides that if Juri gets in it's very hard for ingrid to get out
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Good luck to my juri and viper bros vs Ingrid because im not touching either of those matchups with a 50ft pole (outside of being forced to in ranked) Im definitely playing Elena vs Ingrid
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