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@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ Yea now re-read all your arguments and you might figure out why you’ve disproven your own argument 👍 good day

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ I’ve explained enough, good day to you

Game state not important for this? Like Everton I feel do a lot of sitting in and protecting a lead which means teams are battering them with shots. XG has its use & is great, but I hope people don’t use this as the “actual league table” or anything like that.

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ You don’t realise it but you’re actually just proving why your argument is wrong 😂😂😂never seen someone argue AGAINST their original argument before without knowing it

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ However, it makes no sense to add those two teams together and compare their league position and xG, as they are different teams with different players at different points in their career. Does this make sense to you?

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ Bro are you slow or what? Let’s use city as an example, imagine they have 560 points in total the last 8 seasons, you could then check what their expected points were in total across all those seasons. If variance cancels out it’ll be close to 560

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ Okay I’ll say it one more time Leicester were a premier league team a few years ago. If you look at their xG that season they were probably decent. Then they got worse. If you look at their xG in the season they got relegated it was probably bad. They are different teams

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ It will literally show if variance cancels out or not???? I’m saying it doesn’t, you’re saying it does. If the points total doesn’t line up you’ve been proven wrong, and if it lines up ive been proven wrong

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ That doesn’t work for reasons I’ve already explained

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ Yes you’re saying 38 games isn’t enough which I literally agree with. That’s why you should make a table of 300+ games because the data exists of that. Ask Claude to help you

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ Bro, I’ve explained it enough. Put my points into chatGPT and tell it to explain it to you, I don’t feel like repeating myself

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ You’re the one refusing to make a table since 17/18 when xG was popularized, if you just did you could prove your point (or in reality, disprove it)

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ Yes, that is true. But in reality Ronaldo will cut in on his right far more often than Robben. You will only see this when looking at a large sample size of games and not one game, like I said

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ I’m literally telling you to increase the sample size and make a table since 17/18 of expected points vs points total 😂😂

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ You’re not understanding me. xG is not perfect on a game to game basis but it’s meant to be looked at over a long time span. Over a large enough sample size, the inconsistencies will be ironed out as the model was trained over extremely large sample sizes.

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ imagine a situation where a player cuts in from the left to finish Situation 1: it’s Ronaldo cutting in and finishing on his right foot Situation 2: it’s robben cutting in and finishing on his right foot The xG is the same, but in reality Ronaldo has a much bigger chance

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ xG is not flawless but it’s the best normie metric we have and is accurate for a majority of use cases. The weak foot strong foot thing is irrelevant as xG is built off of millions of players shooting from that position with their weak or strong foot.

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ You’re arguing against yourself now, you realise that right? 😂😂😂I’m saying make the 38 game sample into a larger one, xG has been a thing since 2017. U could make a PL sample consistent of 340 games and see how accurate it is 👍

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ It’s not relevant as the underlying conditions have changed. If United as a team were to 14th best team in the league based on xG but are the 3rd best this season based on xG do you not see why we can’t compare them? Like I said a 38 game season is not large enough sample size

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ Doesn’t change anything, let’s say United had 60 expected points last season and 50 this season (making up random numbers for the sake of it) their combined total should be 110, now do this but use the xG table and actual points taken ever since xG was introduced

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ Teams change every season. United this season is not the same as United last season.

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ Your argument would only be valid if xG was a flawless metric but as I pointed out it’s very flawed 👍

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ Over enough games, this will all be evened out. That’s why I said 1000 games

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ Then there’s weaknesses in keepers aswell,take Raya for example, a team that generates 10 xG against him only consistent of shots from outside the box will likely score more than the team generating 11xg all consistent of shots from inside the box because of rayas weakness

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ If we played 1000 games then there would be enough of statistical variance to even out the edge cases you mention. Over a large enough sample size, teams will deviate to their xG in terms of performance. Ask Nottingham Forest

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ Plenty of flaws in the xG metric 😂😂😂for example if a team forces a player out wide to finish with his weak foot, that will still generate the same xG as a player who finishes in the same position but using his strong foot

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ “If we played 1000 games, the xG table would be the league table” you can’t say this and then claim there are games where a team that has 1.4 to 1.1xG doesn’t deserve to win. That’s my point. Nobody has said you don’t deserve the win if it’s 4vs1.45xg

@whu_crypto @JacobHorsfall_ It’s never black and white and when the xG is close like 1.3 to 1.1 then it could go either way, but when it’s something crazy like 4xG to 1.45xG then yes, the higher xG team deserved the win But xG is not a per game metric, it’s meant to be looked at over an extended period.

@supremetactico7 @JacobHorsfall_ Not true is it 😂😂😂if you genuinely believe the team with the highest xG in a game deserved to win every time you’re delusional, plenty of games where the team with less xG rightfully won (or even drew/loss but deserved a win)

@JacobHorsfall_ Your argument is flawed, sitting in and protecting against a lead should limit opposition xG as well. If we played 1000 games, the xG table would be the league table. Simple as that

@MichaelEmilio_ @bronthedouble You know players move right? You don’t look left and then all players stand still waiting for you to receive the ball

@bronthedouble Looked to his left five times in a row at the end… What is he scanning 😭

Pushing 30 and can’t scan but people wanted to compare him to Pedri😂😂

@tomgthe3 @chesscom i said ne4 immediately and its the first time i see the position, attacks the queen and has nc3 after to block the check qa5, I suppose theres something deeper hikaru didnt like but looks quite straight forward

@chesscom Most chess players wouldn't have found Ne4 either, but we're all banging our heads on the wall because we have Stockfish while we watch.

AND HIKARU DOESN'T FIND IT. SINDAROV COULD GO TO 4.5/5 WITH A WIN HERE 😱

@T3MP__ @WestHam_Central @TheAthleticFC youre clueless about football if you genuinely believe soucek hasnt been prem quality for years

West Ham are in no rush to offer Tomas Soucek an improved deal. The Czech Republic international's contract expires at the end of next season, but the club have the option to extend for another year. @TheAthleticFC