Wixrom

@PackofRaccoons @RealPostFolder I am about to drop a truth bomb on you. You don’t get saved from hell or get into paradise by doing good. You get salvation by repenting and believing in the Lord. That’s it. We should do good out of love for God, but we don’t get salvation from it.

@wixrom05 @RealPostFolder Oh you 100% do good out of fear of hell or the reward of heaven.

@PackofRaccoons @RealPostFolder Jesus is human and God at the same time. Jesus is God with a adopted human nature. Like putting on a jacket, except the jacket is a human nature.

@wixrom05 @RealPostFolder You can not be human and a god at the same time, you are one or the other, as that's how this universe that he built works, it functions off of duality.

@EvasoreMaltese @NulledMinds_ @TanoroZ @RealPostFolder God has always existed and will always exist. He is eternally uncreated. The universe cannot be eternal because science has come to the conclusion that the universe had a beginning (Big Bang) and the universe is headed to entropy. Objective morality exists, everyone knows this.

@wixrom05 @NulledMinds_ @TanoroZ @RealPostFolder So who created god? If the existence of something means it was created and being created means that there is a creator, who is the creator of god? Also, what objective morality? That doesn't exist

@OpenlyReasoned @AtheistL01 @Zak_in_Oregon @jymetcalf @RealPostFolder People try and justify evil because humanity has a sinful, fallen nature. We know deep down what is right and what is wrong, but we do evil because we are evil.

@wixrom05 @AtheistL01 @Zak_in_Oregon @jymetcalf @RealPostFolder If morality is objective then ALL morality would be objective. What you’re doing is cherry-picking popular moral edicts and then ignoring the fact that a popular opinion is still an opinion. Morality is — and can only be — subjective.

@BacchusComplex @AtheistL01 @RealPostFolder God will punish the child murderer and rapists, when he decided to. That is his decision as God. But the government, whom God has given the authority to punish child murderer and rapists are refusing to do so. Because they do not follow Him and His laws.

@wixrom05 @AtheistL01 @RealPostFolder I am. I have. And i will continue to do so, so long as an all powerful entity watches child rape and murder happen and refuses to intervene to stop it.

@BacchusComplex @Farming05219747 @RealPostFolder Not it’s not circular reasoning. I know hell exists because Jesus said so. I trust Jesus because he has provided evidence for whom he is. I trust the account of that evidence because the people giving those accounts have no reason to lie about it.

@wixrom05 @Farming05219747 @RealPostFolder "I know the Boble is true because the Bible says its true." Circular reasoning.

@BacchusComplex @AtheistL01 @RealPostFolder If you don’t want salvation then fine, be judged and be sent to die in hell. I am only trying to spread the good news so that people won’t have to die in hell. God is taking an account of every human’s sins and he is actively killing us for our sins. He is not passive.

@wixrom05 @AtheistL01 @RealPostFolder Nobody here is asking for salvation. The question was what would you say, as an atheist, if god turns oyt to be real, on the day of judgement. I dont want salvation. I want god to not allow child rape and murder when he sees it and can stop it. He doesnt, so he gets my response

@Logos_Path @RealPostFolder He is the author of truth, whatever he decides is the objective truth. He doesn’t need majority vote for a decision, Heaven is not a democracy, it is an absolute monarchy. They will probably go to hell, but only God knows. Everyone deserves hell. Salvation is a gift, not right.

@wixrom05 @RealPostFolder He makes a distinction based on an arbitrary decision, since his definition of sin is neither accepted nor recognized by the majority of the world's population. What about those who have never even heard of your imaginary Jesus? Will they go to hell or not?

@Logos_Path @Zak_in_Oregon @RealPostFolder Jesus nature was fully recognized at the Council of Chalcedon, which used what is written about Jesus in Scripture and basic logic to come to the hypostatic union conclusion.

@wixrom05 @Zak_in_Oregon @RealPostFolder 'He is both.' Prove it! You're just making a claim based on predictable and absurd circular reasoning.

@Logos_Path @RealPostFolder He doesn’t hide, he literally came down to earth as a man and lived among us. His revelations are not contradictory when read in context and correctly translated.

@wixrom05 @RealPostFolder Why should we obey a creator who hides from us and contradicts himself in his 'revelations'?

@Logos_Path @Zak_in_Oregon @RealPostFolder The food laws were abolished (mostly) in the New Testament, this is evident by Jesus statement in Matthew 15:11 and Peters vision in Acts 10:9-16. So before this pork for example was forbidden, but now it is clean. God cleaned it. That is within his authority.

@wixrom05 @Zak_in_Oregon @RealPostFolder So why don't Jews and Christians have the same prohibitions, especially regarding food? Is it a sin to eat pork in the eyes of Yahweh?

@AtheistL01 @BacchusComplex @RealPostFolder Everyone that rejects the Son of Man will get the punishment they deserve. Death. Repent or this is your future.

@wixrom05 @BacchusComplex @RealPostFolder We should punish the story book character and its followers? Wow. I don’t believe the bs exists, it’s like saying you reject Bigfoot lol.

@AtheistL01 @OpenlyReasoned @Zak_in_Oregon @jymetcalf @RealPostFolder No, it doesn’t. Rape is punished with death.

@wixrom05 @OpenlyReasoned @Zak_in_Oregon @jymetcalf @RealPostFolder Depends on the situation according to your book.

@Logos_Path @RealPostFolder YHWH. He did not change the definition. The New Testament is more of a clarification and a completions of the Old Testament than a replacement of it. Many Christians get this wrong to. But most of the Old Testament still applies (only exception food and symbolic laws).

@wixrom05 @RealPostFolder Which god are you talking about? Why did the definition of sin change between the two Testaments? Is your god really that fickle?

@Logos_Path @RealPostFolder You can watch videos on youtube about why God exists and why that is the only rational explanation. For example the man with the highest IQ in the world proved God’s existence using math. It is an interesting video. There are also many others about the other reasons I brought up.

@wixrom05 @RealPostFolder I require empirical evidence capable of convincing any rational mind.

@Logos_Path @Zak_in_Oregon @RealPostFolder He is both. That is part of the miracle. God walked in human form among us, He drank like us, ate like us, talked with us, slept like us, healed us, prayed like us, suffered like us, died like us. But unlike us, he committed no sin. Through him, we can achieve salvation.

@wixrom05 @Zak_in_Oregon @RealPostFolder You still haven't resolved the contradiction regarding the supposed nature of Jesus: was he man or God? He cannot be both.

@Logos_Path @Zak_in_Oregon @RealPostFolder You can watch videos on why he did it. It was a symbolic act. I honestly don’t have the patience to explain it myself.

@wixrom05 @Zak_in_Oregon @RealPostFolder Is it not evil for Jesus to curse a fig tree that had done him no harm (Mark 11:12-14), especially since he was supposed to be omniscient and therefore must have known it would not bear fruit at that time of year?

@andyupchurch @RealPostFolder Read what the people groups did. The Amalek cowardly attacked the Israelites from behind after exodus. They slaughtered innocent woman, children, the elderly and sick, the stragglers. Also the Amalek knew about God. Yet they did it anyway. What an utterly despicable people.

@wixrom05 @RealPostFolder It is interesting that you are aware of God-driven genocides, but pre-excuse them as justified merely because God told you that they were justified. Has any tyrant ever said they're tyranny was unjustified? If you take away God's justification, can you defend what happened?

@andyupchurch @RealPostFolder I personally believe it was a flooding of Mesopotamia. But nevertheless, the flood was completely justified. Read the story of how the world was before the flood. The people were completely corrupted and evil Nephilim (abominable angel-human hybrids) roomed the land.

@wixrom05 @RealPostFolder For another example, the biblical flood whipped out all of humanity except for 8(?) people. That's the nearly the most one could possibly genocide.

@andyupchurch @RealPostFolder They were an evil people, God would have been justified in ordering their complete and utter destruction. But God was willing to show mercy to the virgin girls by letting them live as slaves instead. But the sex slavery part is untrue. Sex slavery is banned since it’s adultery.

@wixrom05 @RealPostFolder Ah, you're right about the fetuses. I confused that with other biblical stories, but my point stands. What context validates killing pregnant women and innocent children and taking virgin girls into sex slavery, which you euphemistically call "mercy"?