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Sorry that doesn't logically follow. That's like saying thousands and tens of thousands of different stories about fictional storms across human history strongly suggests that all storms are human inventions rather than objective realities. Do you see how stupid that sounds. Evidence that there are Gods who were invented by humans throughout human history is not evidence all God's were created or invented by humans. Just like evidence that there are stories about storms that were infected by humans throughout human history is not evidence all storms were invented by humans. Try again and actually use logic rather than talking points

@wrapologetics Thousands of different gods across history strongly suggests they are human inventions rather than objective realities.

Funny how humans created God, build the churches, wrote the Bible, preach the sermons, discover the medicine and feed the poor. But somehow deserve none of the credit.

Again, I didn't make the claim....YOU DID. Still waiting on your proof that all gods were invented by humans. Alas, you have none for your blind faith irrational belief you believe without evidence. Since you are a coward troll who runs from your burden of proof, you are dismissed. I don't feed trolls. Enjoy the L coward.

@wrapologetics @Askwhyisit Still waiting for proof of your God Alas, you have none….

NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME. Which means there are other gods, but your God only wants to be number one.

@umbranoid @KR3Wmatic Except it is justified and not an non sequitur. Because a newborn has a lack of belief in God. So if newborn is not an atheist but has a lack of belief in God, then atheism has to be MORE than just a lack of belief. That is basic logic. Thanks for playing though.

@wrapologetics @KR3Wmatic Non sequitur. Your conclusion is not justified in that context.

Newborns are not born atheists; they are born as "blank slates" lacking the cognitive capacity for theological concepts entirely.

@AndyWatk @Askwhyisit Except I'm not so there's that. Run along coward

@wrapologetics @Askwhyisit Thanks Now I know you’re a liar…

@AndyWatk @Askwhyisit The Bible was written in three languages, not just aramaic. Yes I can read biblical greek, biblical hebrew, and I can read the small number of Aramaic passages in the text. You can't. Sit this one out

@wrapologetics @Askwhyisit Can you read Aramaic?

What a stunningly stupid thing to say. There are literally hundreds of God's people believe in. You say all of them were invented by humans. Prove it or shut it. You can't or you would have already done it. But the truth is you can't. You made the claim in this conversation, not me. Quit dodging your burden of proof coward where's your evidence

@wrapologetics @Askwhyisit What a stunningly stupid thing to say There are literally hundreds of gods people believe in You say yours is the only right one Prove it or shut it. You can’t or you’d already have done it But the truth is you can’t You have a claim…the Bible Where’s the evidence?

And since I actually have studied it on a scholarly level for decades and can read it in its original language, I'm going to wager that you're wrong. And saying that you're out of your death isn't condescending. It's an observation that is fact. You are out of your depth. Sorry that reality offends you, get over it and provide the evidence for your claim that I'm still waiting on

@wrapologetics @Askwhyisit I’m not 100% certain, but I’d wager I know your Bible better than you So don’t try to be condescending Your God wouldn’t like that, would he?

@AndyWatk @Askwhyisit I didn't make that claim in this conversation, you made a claim in this conversation you have a burden of proof and you will not need it because you know you can't. It's a blind faith belief you hold and you will continue to dodge it because you're a coward

@wrapologetics @Askwhyisit Pathetic You claim a God exists that no one can see, while dozens of others claim theirs exist too Prove that yours is the only one Go ahead…

As I said, you're out of your depth. You're the one who doesn't understand the burden of proof. The burden of proof lies on any person who makes a claim. You made a claim that humans invented god. That is a claim you have a burden of proof for. Prove that claim and quit trying to dodge your burden and you know you can't.

@wrapologetics @Askwhyisit You’re obviously clueless when it comes to a burden of proof You make the claim that your God exists. Others claim theirs is the only true God Prove your exists You can’t, and you know it Grow up. You’re not a child any more

Oh so you're an atheist because you're a product of your environment, got it. No, I'm a product of someone who has actually studied it. And you're ignorant statement completely ignores the fact that there are people who are raised one way and have changed. Sit this out, you are out of your depth

@wrapologetics @Askwhyisit If you were honest, you’d admit you’re only a Christian because you were brought up to be one If you’d been brought up in Pakistan you’d be a Muslim 100% In Japan, a Buddhist In Jerusalem, a Jew You’re just a product of your environment Nothing else…

I'm going to repeat what I said, because you clearly didn't pay attention. God did make himself clear, you being confused is your problem and it is your fault. It's not that he's not clear, it's that you didn't take the time to understand. And no, people aren't going to burn in hell as there is no actual fire in hell, and the Eternal punishment is annihilation, not eternal torment. And if you're going to claim God is invented you have to demonstrate that with evidence, not just assert it

@wrapologetics @Askwhyisit Yes, you dumbo He should make himself clear because otherwise your god is supposedly burning people in hell for all eternity for failing to get the message If you’re going to invent a god, at least try and do a good job of it…

Explain what? Are you suggesting God should come down every time someone misquotes something from the Bible or doesn't understand something and force them to understand it even if they didn't take the time to study it or educate themselves on it. What are you rambling about. It is clarified, you just have to actually put in the work to comprehend it the same way you would with anything else. For example, if someone just picked up a quantum physics book and started reading it, is it the author of The quantum physics book's fault that a random person picked it up and misunderstood it, of course not. They just didn't do the work to understand it. It's not God's problem that you don't do the work, that's your problem

@wrapologetics @Askwhyisit So why didn’t “God” inspire the writers and translators of the Bible to clarify it? Every day he sees one of his commandments misquoted and does nothing? Can’t he? Does he not want to? Explain.

@adelebloch11 @Askwhyisit If you're talking specifically in context to the other people in the time of the old testament, no. If you're talking about other people today who may have a different language so they don't use the same word, maybe.

@Askwhyisit Or maybe people worship the same God under different names.

@TGrogan268173 @AiG Yeah that's not how that works

@AiG Outside of Genesis, Adam and Eve are hardly mentioned in the entire Hebrew Bible! It’s almost like the story was written later?

The Bible tells the truth.

@AiG But that doesn't mean that you tell the truth nor does it mean that your interpretation of the Bible is correct

This is stupid for two reasons. First, observing things in the present absolutely can reveal the past. If you disagree with that then you don't think we can ever put anyone in prison when they go to trial as we observe evidence in the present for a past crime they committed. Of course observing the present can reveal the past. So when we see things like supernovas we know that it's revealing a past event of a star dying. But further you've just completely denied the concept of the speed of light and how light that we see has to travel and the light from something by the time it makes it to us is from an event that happened in the past. This is just how time and the speed of light works. Quit lying for jesus, it doesn't look good

The James Webb Space Telescope observes the present; it doesn’t reveal the past.

Using your logic, theism isn't a worldview either. It's just the acceptance of a proposition and Atheism is the rejection of a proposition. Neither of which would be world views. Yet you have no problem with atheists asking theists to defend their worldview even though theism isn't a worldview. Because even though theism in and of itself is not a world of view theism informs a worldview the same way atheism informs a worldview. You have a worldview, that worldview is atheistic even though atheism isn't a worldview. You haven't actually addressed the issue that is being spoken of here. Instead you have just played semantic games and pretended you won something

@DugganTheOne Then quit looking to atheists to propose or defend a worldview. Atheism isn't one. Yes, each atheist has a worldview, but their mere rejection of the theistic worldview does not by itself represent a competing worldview.

Because atheism isn't a worldview, is why. There's nothing to defend.