@HyukaaHyukaa i just see things differently. being rude doesn't prove your point
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i, liina
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I understand but it gets to a point where this stuff needs to be shown like inc3st? The fantasies about 🦊🐰 while 🦊 was underage ??
i, liina@xwhrh
never spoke on this topic before but honestly i’m so tired of these constant fandom moral policing. making expose docs, stalking accounts and policing follow lists isn't normal behavior
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@xwhrh "moral policing" and its pedopjilia and grooming romanticised bc "aww cute ship!" get a fucking grip if you think this is smth to be taken lightly when you know ❤️💛 met when they were 16 and 23. this IS pushing the idea that ❤️ is a groomer. grow the fuck up
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@lavenderzz_ @Lesbotron50000 explicit screenshots from tiny priv acc circulating now across the entire fandom and 100+ page expose docs posted from anon weird account don't feel safe either
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@xwhrh @Lesbotron50000 i don't feel as though there are really any other ways that don't hide the issue and compromise the safety of other evols, especially minors T-T
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@lavenderzz_ @Lesbotron50000 i think this whole topic is complicated, and there's not a perfect solution. but for me this isn't the good way to handle it
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@xwhrh @Lesbotron50000 even so this isn't the type of behaviour you can just let slide so we can have a 'peaceful' fandom... we'd just be covering for an incredibly problematic and possibly dangerous person if we didn't make a fuss
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@lavenderzz_ @Lesbotron50000 fighting problematic behavior through another problematic behavior isnt a good solution either these situations keep repeating and fandom atmosphere keep getting worse fandom is big and im sure there'll always be people with relatively big accs saying inappropriate things in priv
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@xwhrh @Lesbotron50000 i mean the other alternative is that nobody knows all of the terrible things vexie did and they all continue to interact w her like nothing is wrong.... could have ended up in an incredibly dangerous situation
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@lavenderzz_ @Lesbotron50000 for me normalizing exposing because of an acceptable exception still isn't healthy fandom behavior. i also consider stalking, monitoring private spaces and creating expose docs problematic behavior which harms the fandom too, regardless of the person being exposed
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@xwhrh @Lesbotron50000 obviously it should only be reserved for cases where people are causing actual harm to people within a fandom space, which vexie was. it shouldnt be over petty disputes that could be resolved with a block but this was not one of those cases
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@lavenderzz_ @Lesbotron50000 but if we agree this kind of exposing shouldn't become normal fandom behavior, then who decides when it's acceptable? how do we choose which people should be investigated?
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@xwhrh @Lesbotron50000 -that way makes me feel ill. again i dont think its the sort of thing that we should be doing all of the time but there really are exceptions to that rule when the behaviour is as bad and as problematic as this
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@lavenderzz_ @Lesbotron50000 i worry that this kind of expose culture became normalized. person who contributed a lot publicly to the fandom ends up being judged mostly through things from private spaces. should we like monitor, investigate and expose each other constantly?
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@xwhrh @Lesbotron50000 i dont think we need expose docs for everything as ur right that they can make a fandom space feel more hostile,but in this situation it was very much needed and has hopefully solved the issue of lots of people not knowing that one of the biggest evol accounts was weird like that
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@topslefteyebrow i just think keeping private spaces private and blocking things you're uncomfortable with creates a healthier fandom atmosphere than mass exposing
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@xwhrh can you show me another way this should be addressed because attention has been brought to this situation before to no avail 🤨
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moral policing and we’re talking about a 30 year old with a huge following fantasizing about a then 16 year old and putting them in inappropriate situations…
i, liina@xwhrh
never spoke on this topic before but honestly i’m so tired of these constant fandom moral policing. making expose docs, stalking accounts and policing follow lists isn't normal behavior
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@lavenderzz_ @Lesbotron50000 i just think these kinds of expose docs and investigations end up making the fandom atmosphere much more hostile and unhealthy for everyone, and don't really solve anything
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@xwhrh @Lesbotron50000 i wouldn't usually say exposing private spaces was ok but in situations as bad as this, it's something we need to consider. vexxi's behaviour isn't something that should be kept hush hush just because some of it happened to occur in private spaces.
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@Lesbotron50000 you're asking the wrong person honestly, i usually just mind my business and avoid fandom discourse for exactly this reason
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@xwhrh And who set that system up? 😍 stop hiding come on tell us everything that goes on in that community 😍 would love to know
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@lavenderzz_ @Lesbotron50000 problematic behavior and exposing private spaces are both unacceptable. i just don't think turning fandom into constant surveillance and public investigations is normal
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@xwhrh @Lesbotron50000 its so clear that what's happened today is not about just shipping though? racism, pedo/incest topics, talk of grooming and other problematic behaviours towards minors... it needs to be called out publicly, people need to know that it isn't behaviour that will slide in evoltwt
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@Lesbotron50000 i'm not saying racism or weird behavior should be excused. my point from the beginning was about the fandom culture of stalking, exposing and constantly monitoring each other
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@xwhrh This isn't about shipping this is about the racism in the fandom and pedocest stop changing the subject
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@Lesbotron50000 i don't think insulting each other privately is good from either side. but turning all of this into public expose culture is making the fandom atmosphere worse for everyone. if we don't want things like this to happen, maybe we should stop judging over ships
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@xwhrh "Private things" yet they always quoted our shit mk
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@xluvruii personally i have no wish to read 100+ pages of material gathered through priv accs monitoring. i'm talking about the fandom culture this creates constant surveillance, expose docs and public investigations into each other instead of just enjoying art and curating our own spaces
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no this shit needs to be called out i’m sorry. like it’s one thing to be a shipper but the stuff that was being said in that doc is genuinely deplorable and needed to be brought to attention/called out
i, liina@xwhrh
never spoke on this topic before but honestly i’m so tired of these constant fandom moral policing. making expose docs, stalking accounts and policing follow lists isn't normal behavior
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@Lesbotron50000 my tweet wasn't about defending every single thing people may have said in private spaces. stalking accounts and publicly exposing private things also isn't okay
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@xwhrh Ignore the racism /grooming fantasies I guess
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we are all here because we want to enjoy xlov and experience their art together. treating people like outcasts only because you don't accept a ship is not okay. if something makes you uncomfortable, just block/mute and move on, not every part of fandom has to be for you
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