@lostinstars4evr@NewtoxicM79482 yeah and the only thing youre believing is complete sentences, and not hard proof. Did your teacher not tell you that not everything on the internet is true?
@Mr_Mobius_@ShoeskeThesilly honestly what im getting out of this is that they both seemed to act like horny teenagers (at the age of 22) and then ren was possibly mad things didnt work out the way she wanted and decided to make a document on him. only time can tell
An 200+ pages google doc doesn't equal its 100% truth.
Remember false accusations do exist and they destroy lifes as well.
Here's an video of what an false accusation can do.
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@seli636 i think he is a R_PIST, ren herself stated that she was afraid to write the document because ZEAL SAID AND JOKED REPEATEDLY ABOUT IT, DOUBTED HER, AND MADE HER DOUBT HERSELF
literally she could've made a document way earlier if it wasn't for zeal n others pressuring her
A lot of people started doubting Ren's document and some even started defending Zeal
Guys im sorry but you are kinda late to the party. It all ended as soon as it started
@Mr_Mobius_@ShoeskeThesilly funny thing is that this is definitely not considered rape, rape is when its very forceful and they use threats and violence. zeal did not do this lol, it was purely (alleged) sexual assault. but yeahhh then theres the omitted evidence document which proves it was consensual
@freakybob12345@seli636 he wouldve had an actual document if hundreds if not thousands of people told him to kill himself. and yet, ren did absolutely nothing at all to stop this from happening, if she got that many people to blindly believe her, whats stopping her from controlling them well?
@Memerrrr111 Fawning.
Just...
That singular word.
Fawning.
:)
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Just because the proof seems solid does not mean it can't be argued.
Think about every possibility. Don't just assume that because its a lot that you should completely disregard whatever Zeal has to say. It's the wrong mindset to have.
@yeahdical@HallowAlt@qnhcore theres a reason why people choose victims over the perpetrator and its because you dont want to blindly defend/support a rapist. Quite frankly theres even more evidence in rens document that supports her side more than zeals side.
@Zedlovafly@HallowAlt@qnhcore You don't want to blindly believe anybody. Did I say people should defend or support Zeal? No. Did I say people should blindly believe Ren? No. There isn't enough evidence, and there probably never will be due to Zeal stopping work on his response due to the extreme immediate-
@Zedlovafly@HallowAlt@qnhcore Furthermore, I just looked up on how good the Danish justice system is. Denmark quite literally consistently ranks number 1 in terms of that. Your argument of the justice system being bad is total bs here.
@Zedlovafly@HallowAlt@qnhcore - I choose to take the video seriously as we need as much information as we can get, due to any and all allegations needing to be fully proven until we can take any sort of stance, and for people to say their choice of words to someone involved. And, well, suicide is serious.
@HallowAlt@qnhcore Unfortunately for you I'm capable of feeling sympathy, and have thoroughly read the document to understand both of their povs. This shit is sad, and it gets even sadder when you read between the lines in the document past ren's obvious strawmanning. Nobody here is in the right.
@mamaimonthenews@P4rtyH4ts I mean that's kind of what I meant in a sense, it's as if you're associating that album with pretentious people, and it can ruin the vibe for a lot of people just cause some nerdy ass people on the internet rate it high on their favorite music rating site.
@yeahdical@P4rtyH4ts The music itself isn't pretentious in fact I love almost every album here but the fan bases are usually very pretentious surrounding them