Yellowwalrus67

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo Anecdotal evidence from a lolicon lol

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo Hey, I have to go with personal experiences, and anecdotes with stuff like this, personally, I've seen far more predators/groomers against lolicons than for lolicons, and the lolicon predators aren't very common at all, and they commonly go against predators if they do exist.

According to Anti, these things are more "ethical" than Lolisho: 1) Murder 2) Self-Harm 3) Suicide 4) Child Abuse 5) Gore 6) Harassment 7) Spamming CSEM 8) Belittling CSA survivors 9) Doxxing people 10) Genocide It's insane what lengths people go to for fiction

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo What makes you think every pedo actively offends?

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo Correct, being a pedophile is exclusively attraction to children, but the problem with pedophiles is that attraction to children leads to them raping, and abusing people who inherently cannot consent.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo No I was saying lolicons becoming child traffickers was a long shot

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOUR CLAIM, what the fuck even is your claim at this point?

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo If you can imagine in your head right now literally anything physical it proves me right, if someone "imaginative" can visualize something real I was right all along

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo Nope, fictional characters cannot be depictions, drawings, and representations of children no matter how much you said otherwise, I keep telling you why it's wrong, you just reject it because you didn't like my answer. x.com/Agoristfurry/s…

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo 3. That's not what it said 4. Already buried this

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo 4. No, all being a lolicon, and being attracted to lolis shows is that they're attracted to fictional characters, that's it, you can't say anymore than that.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo 1. You're lying 2. Enough said

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo 1. Hilariously enough, I'M NOT EVEN A LOLICON, I JUST DEFEND LOLICONS. 2. No, I already showed you why lolicons are attracted to lolis. 3. I literally showed you a study showing pedophiles aren't even attracted to, and can't get off to lolicon content.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo How can you think of a child in your mind or imagination if it's not a concept?

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo Except kids aren't concepts you could put into a piece of paper.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo NOT THE FICTION ITSELF, WHAT IT REPRESENTS

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo Except AGAIN, you cannot be a pedophile based off being attracted to any fictional character, because fictional characters including lolis are not children

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo Says you

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo And the pedophiles who are in the lolicon community, and doing this are not very frequent at all, so you attacking the lolicon material as a whole, and thinking pedophiles are attracted to it is false.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo "To cope" that's awfully soft language to use for those people, why can pedos "cope" with lolicon specifically??? Just maybe

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo Obviously, there COULD be pedophiles who are attracted to real children and will use fiction as a way to cope with their attraction and want CSEM. But for that to happen, they also have to be attracted to moe. It's not enough for them to just be attracted to children.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo Omg why do you start 10 proxy debates but try and include it into the general main one any time I respond

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo Then what the hell even is your claim if you're saying there's not a causal link between lolicon and pedophilia? Saying that a pedophile COULD be attracted to lolicon, and you could be a pedophile for beign attracted to lolicon? I'll go over that claim now.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo I don't think you understand that a fantasy doesn't exactly equal fiction

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo It's a point to show how invalid it is to claim that fictional attractions reflect your IRL attractions, this is just one example, I could provide more to show how invalid it is.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo Lolicon=visual depiction of female children usually in sexual scenarios

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo So you're again asserting a link between a fictional attraction and an IRL attraction...without ever proving it.

@ezzh_ Do you want a hadith that says otherwise?

@yellowwalrus65 We aren’t denying it, but just like everything, you need context to understand it. The prophet explains how it is done through his actions, and the Hadith says it is done in a way that does not harm her. Do you even read anything I give you?

This image and mention “Muslim” is an automatic banger for these droids It’s sad because all their arguments get refuted too

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo Omg again the thoughts are about the concept of kids in sexual scenarios

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo But the thoughts outside of fiction are...towards fictional characters, the sexual attraction to fictional characters/themes in fictional content is real, no one is denying that, the entire claim is that your fictional attractions do not reflect your IRL attractions.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo Consuming loli comes from being a pedo it doesn't make you a pedo afterwards

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo Pedophilic disorder is a deeply rooted disorder you develop in the womb or from swept childhood trauma. Not from watching a cartoon according to psychologists/therapists.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo You're inclined to loli by being a pedo to begin with

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo Generally, you wouldn't become a pedophile, and become attracted to children if there wasn't an inclination towards those tendencies to begin with, no matter what fiction you consume/what fictional characters you're attracted to. You wouldn't become a pedophile from fiction.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo That's not what being a pedo means, it's an attraction not an action

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo But it's wrong. Every study on this also found no link between consumption of fiction, and IRL crimes/bad behavior in any way, and that includes studies looking for connection between consumption cartoons, and CSA. Example: cbldf.org/2012/07/danish…

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo Eh not really a casual link more of a long shot

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo So again, you're claiming a link between a fictional attraction, and an IRL attraction, and that you will rape children because of lolicon, and there's a causal link somewhere...thanks for proving that my refutation was actually correct.

@Agoristfurry @SuperBearNeo No in certain aspects it does

@yellowwalrus65 @SuperBearNeo But the lolicon discussion is inherently outside an in universe context by its very nature, you're trying to apply in universe stuff into a debate where it doesn't belong.