@CLOUDWYYY this version of neutrality you're talking about shifts focus from the sa and harm that the victim has gone thru, while the abuser gets the benefit of the doubt, anyway heres proof for the SA!
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yesok
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First of all being Neutral is the key to this certain situations because there’s literal 0 concrete evidence of anything that either of them claim, had happened. and no THIS DOES NOT help the “abuser” in this case like at all.
And 2nd Zeal did not admit to SA happening like at all.
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i understand wanting to be neutral, but when someone comes forward about being sexually assaulted, staying neutral ends up helping the abuser more than the person that got assaulted. it makes it 10x harder for victims to be taken seriously, especially when zeal admits to it.
yesok@yesokmori
zeal cuts out the part where ren explains consent to him!
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@Mogeko_AN zeal cut stuff out to suit his needs.
zeal changed the story.
this is what makes it obvious that zeal is in the wrong, and that he sexually assaulted ren.
oh and that he's said sorry to sexually assaulting her
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@yesokmori A victim wouldn't cut things out to suit their needs.
A victim wouldn't change the story.
A victim tells the truth because they have nothing to hide and only want to tell the truth.
This is what makes me not completely believe in Ren.
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@Lucasar04138772 with the evidence and stuff presented, i personally disagree with you, just wait for more evidence then
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@yesokmori Zeal in generally doesn’t seem to want to hurt her, and actively apologizes,
Ren wants Zeal to take accountability, but never told him how she entirely felt
Generally how am I supposed to believe either? Until more evidence comes out
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@yesokmori That literally points out that he moved hastily even with the consent
She literally says “it’s fine” after he said sorry, meaning she didn’t feel like she had been SA’d
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@Lucasar04138772 yeah, which he didn't do before
"u just ripped everything off and did stuff without asking"
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@yesokmori Her point is to directly state each action he should take doing the sexual experience, so she can feel ready
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@yesokmori I rather wait for Ren’s document then immediately pick her side, it’s unfair and clearly biased
Zeal did terrible decisions, so did Ren
Neither took direct accountability for it, only Zeal slightly doing it maybe because of his reputation at hand, who knows at this point
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@Lucasar04138772 she says that he literally sexually assaulted her, as shown in the image, and he apologizes. this has also Been cutout from his own doc, he knows he's in the wrong
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@yesokmori This isn’t full confirmation that’s the thing, I’d like to say that it’s completely true, but he’s apologizing for not taking it slower like how Ren is upset for him at
I’m not taking a single side to it since this isn’t just about SA, it’s about everything Ren and Zeal did
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@yesokmori Oh no, this is the end of the world. That is not an explanation of consent, that's an explanation of how to fuck good from a needy twerp. He acknowledges his interactions are sloppy and she tries to mould him into her ideal man.
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zeal cuts out the part where ren explains consent to him!
astridstar (semi-active) ⚙@sonadowyuri
i find it concerning how this conversation between ren and zeal was brushed over, where ren literally has to explain the concept of consent to zeal. "you need to ask me "can I?"" "you ripped everything off and did things without asking"
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@yesokmori Both sides of the argument is important,
Especially when Zeal’s side isn’t wrong in the least, nowhere does Ren fully say that she hasn’t received any consent at all
Staying neutral is important, you can’t just judge one side of the argument and not consider both
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It's very sad how everyone turned on zeal without waiting for his reply. Left the team and community and ruined the game rate and hated on him alot just because ren posted first, posting 200 pages doesn't mean there is no lie. And everything is starting to become clear #pressure
Urbanshade@UrbanshadeRblx
- to share a lot of incredibly personal details about myself that I would rather have stayed private. However, I believe that sharing these details are necessary in order to defend my name.
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@cloversgreenery literally undefendable LMFAO, he says sorry to SA'ING REN
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@yesokmori zeal supporters panicking rn they are NOT defending this one
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@fowntainwhat @InTeaSoul @Ahhly_97 the cutout part im talking about is LITERALLY WHAT GOT CUTOUT FROM HIS OWN DOCUMENT
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@InTeaSoul @yesokmori @Ahhly_97 1. I'm not going silent lol
2. Zeal addressed just about everything else in his own doc so idk why you are still sided with Ren. They are both bad people in their own right but Ren is actively trying to ruin Zeal's life.
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Missing some stuff is literally manipulating the evidence. Omg.
dazed daze@dazed_dazee
"Accusation of SA" does not mean that I am a rapist. THAT IS A FALSE ACCUSATION
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@Ahhly_97 @fowntainwhat @InTeaSoul no she didn't, this is what was said after, ren defending her abuser, do you ever wonder why zeal cut that part out? is cause he literally admits to sexually assaulting ren without her consent, zeal literally says SORRY TO REN
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@yesokmori @fowntainwhat @InTeaSoul But she cutted his response too, we can't even see what he answered to that..
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@fowntainwhat @InTeaSoul @Ahhly_97 the image on the right, THIS has been cutout from zeals doc, a part where ren is talking about how zeal did stuff without her consent.
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@InTeaSoul @yesokmori @Ahhly_97 i mean read the actual content of the screenshot you just sent. the only messages from Zeal I see are things like "Yeah" "Sorry" "Ok"
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@yesokmori Ah yes, because this is how you respond to being sexually assaulted. One side says that it was consensual, the other says it's not.
drive.google.com/file/d/17f7G30…
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I really like how everybody just ignores the elephant in the room where Ren didn't mind about it at all and just tried to help him. Or is it the results of the so-called "fawning"?
yesok@yesokmori
zeal cuts out the part where ren explains consent to him!
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@CatKryo "a bad first time" it wasn't a bad first time, it was sexual assault, if it was just a "bad first time" then she wouldn't be saying this and it wouldn't be cutout from zeals doc either, she wouldn't be saying that zeal did stuff without her permission, you can't defend this
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@yesokmori They got a bad first time, Zeal couldn't catch on the clues due to his autism, and Ren tried to help him understand what to do and what not to. Why frame someone as an assaulter if you tried to help them and you both had a crush on each other?
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