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@zzqeo i haven’t weighed myself in a long time (i dont own a scale). but i’m not a big guy. i’d guess around 150lbs.
i’ve tracked my (intuitive) eating the last week out of curiosity (i haven’t done it for 2-3 years) and it was:
carbs around 450g
protein around 120g
fats around 50g
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@embodiedthinkr the decisive question is what dose of minerals and vitamins are there in natural foods? one should supplement accordingly if needed. nothing more no less, everything else is an unhealthy obsession.
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Joe Rogan exactly right. We need to completely overhaul the RDA.
The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) system was created in 1941 by the National Research Council’s Food and Nutrition Board as a wartime triage tool to address the high rate of malnutrition among WWII conscripts, enable efficient K-ration production, and guide civilian food rationing and Lend-Lease aid. It established minimum intakes sufficient to prevent overt clinical deficiency diseases (scurvy, pellagra, beriberi, rickets) in 97.5% of the population by taking the Estimated Average Requirement and adding a safety margin. This “survival floor” approach—explicitly designed for scarcity and logistics rather than cellular optimization—was later institutionalized by USDA and HHS into permanent policy frameworks such as school lunch programs and the Dietary Guidelines for Americans, where bureaucratic inertia and massive procurement contracts now prevent meaningful revision.
Federal nutrition policy compounds the problem by treating minerals as independent, linear variables while real absorption occurs through competitive, non-linear mechanisms at the intestinal brush border. The Divalent Metal Transporter 1 (DMT1) does not respect label claims; it transports divalent cations according to charge, radius, and concentration. Mandatory iron fortification of flour therefore crowds out manganese, leaving manganese superoxide dismutase (MnSOD) under-cofactored in mitochondria. High-dose zinc supplementation triggers metallothionein synthesis in enterocytes; because metallothionein binds copper far more tightly than zinc, the copper is sequestered and excreted when the cells slough off, starving cytochrome c oxidase (Complex IV) of its essential cofactor and impairing mitochondrial respiration.
The Tolerable Upper Intake Level (UL) framework is equally arbitrary. It relies on sparse NOAEL/LOAEL data multiplied by large, discretionary uncertainty factors, routinely conflating transient physiological responses with genuine toxicity. Magnesium’s 350 mg supplemental UL rests on reports of osmotic diarrhea rather than organ damage. The 100 mg vitamin B6 UL derives from neuropathy cases caused by synthetic pyridoxine HCl, which accumulates and competitively antagonizes the active coenzyme P5P when hepatic conversion is saturated. Niacin’s 35 mg UL was set to suppress the benign, prostaglandin-mediated skin flush, thereby blocking doses capable of favorably shifting NAD+/NADH ratios. Together these metrics lock populations at wartime baseline sufficiency while actively disrupting mineral balance and mitochondrial function.
The RDA was made in wartime, to stave off massive pathologies, being the baseline quantity of "below this severe problems take root" and now people use this to say "wow maybe you shouldn't go above 100% it's 100% for a reason!" While yet other things have their "toxic and dangerous upper limits" set by FOURTEEN PEOPLE who had 10mg copper a day without suffering liver damage. This means this was the most they saw, and observed no negative side effects. This is not a true reflection of toxicity. And when you do the math and calculations it appears to be more like 10 grams a day is likely to kill you, not 10mg.
Tons of problems with RDA, RDV, "100%" etc.
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Sure that's fine. I'm skeptical that government RDA is what's optimal. You can get RDA/RDV whatever, from many diets. But I think higher chromium, along with all other vitamins and minerals, could contribute to great health. Per study and 25 grams figure: 25 g is exactly 125,000 times larger than 200 mcg (25,000,000 / 200 = 125,000). So I think we would be in agreement that for average supplement amounts you shouldn't have 125,000 chromium capsules. It would be far more than even this amount of bottles.
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@ResonantPyre thus the logic becomes clear for that habit, it is necessary for combating sudden shifts of events later.
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@ResonantPyre true need being defined as the measure of energy the body needs for daily activities, then there might come times when there is no food! -again examples of historical famines and autocannibalism-,
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@ResonantPyre and else have conferred upon the body this ability to withstand hunger through the gradual lessening of the intensity of that sensation if one ignores it, but that is of course for sufficient time,
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@ResonantPyre thus the feeling of hunger may not indicate a bodliy need, but just as a result of habit, as the body has its inner resources in fat tissues that cannot be depeleted easily, furthermore, the historical events of famines, fasting
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@_bonaventurian and thus don't catch the crux of his philosophical views, they are much more simplistic for that reason, in that they are for general edification, his mature and more rhetorically sophisticated philosophy was only for the select few. and that itself makes the matter esoteric.
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@_bonaventurian on the contrary, plato and inculding platonists and aristotle himself were just as much initiate and well-versed in the mystery schools and orphism back then, and as for aristotle, his known works and through which we know him are pedagogical
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