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@AnfieldSector He won’t be back to his level for many months after though, it’s not practical to rely on him next season. Isak is definitely getting injured at some point. We should get a loan back up like Nicolas Jackson

@scottycox @LBLFC_ Ok 👍🏼 go kiss Wirtz’s ass you brown noser

@Barnes_Magic @LBLFC_ For one your bio doesn't have your date of birth so your wrong again there, you just love being wrong kid

Florian Wirtz was an absolute bargain at £116m when Elliot Anderson is going for £130m. He's a very poor man's Jordan Henderson. The market is fucked.

@scottycox @LBLFC_ I said in my first post I watched the entire match. Clearly you cannot read or lack the attention span of an adult. My bio has my year of birth too, so now we have confirmation you’re probably mentally challenged. My condolences

@Barnes_Magic @LBLFC_ Haha compilations, yep just showed your age right there, have a good one kid.

@scottycox @LBLFC_ If you watched his entire performance, he showed all the hallmarks of what he’s been doing at LFC. There’s a compilation already doing the rounds of all his touches, so go watch it first. Not the type of calibre expected of a £116M “bargain” as stated by the original post.

@Barnes_Magic @LBLFC_ You mean they best player on the pitch for Germany wirtz?

@q_mxrv @LBLFC_ Blame him for what? When did I blame anyone? First read properly before replying

@Barnes_Magic @LBLFC_ You Watched this Game and Blame Wirtz?

@AnfieldSector Wouldn’t let Jones go for a penny under £60M now

£130m.

@ATLiverpool_ Just throw the same money at Bayern for Olise, it’s worth a shot. A much more proven player and definitely better value for money

You could probably buy BOTH Said El Mala & Matias Fernandez-Pardo for the same price RB Leipzig are asking for Yan Diomande Would be the better deal in all honesty #LFC

@LFCTransferRoom He was a good player for Liverpool. His pace, energy, carrying ability & directness was sorely missed. Only the fools used to berate him & wanted him gone. They got their wish & look at how the team missed his attributes last season 🙃

Luis Diaz is on fire man. Where was this guy when he was at Liverpool? Wow!

@Doc_A_I @mcmulhar @beyond90ftbl @ScoutLabApp You talk about intelligent engines & like to talk in a condescending tone. What relevant qualifications do you have to speak in such patronisingly language? “Vibes” is it? I worked for Mathew Benham, curating statistical models back when XG wasn’t even a term. Settle down.

One one hand there’s a season’s worth of evidence making it ‘glaringly obvious’, but on the other you say you need to come back in 12 months. Either the case is already proven or you’re asking for more sample. Pick one. And ‘not accounted for by statistics’ is just where evidence stops and vibes begin.

#LFC & Recruitment: Yan Diomande = Interstellar @mcmulhar's Yan Diomande point is right: the Mohamed Salah comparison is not about simple output replication. Nobody should buy a teenager from Leipzig and ask him to reproduce Salah’s goals, assists, durability and Premier League muscle memory. That is space fantasy, never mind science fiction. But Diomande can replace part of the way Salah distorted football time-space. Salah was the wormhole. Liverpool’s right side had a shortcut other teams could not map properly. Diomande does not recreate the wormhole, but he understands the physics. He often starts wide, bends inside, and ends near the box or inside the defensive block. This changes trajectories through movement: 5.63 progressive carries p90 (97th percentile), 4.29 successful dribbles p90 (99th) and 1.53 productive dribbles p90 (99th). The pass layer is critical: 4.9 progressive / threatening passes p90, against only 0.2 crosses p90 (six in total). Diomande's deliveries into the box are not in the crossing bucket. They are in ground passes, cutbacks and square balls from wide or half-wide zones: low diagonals, reverse passes, balls across the face, and releases into blind-side runners. So his low crossing rate is not low creation. And that is where Diomande becomes a true #IntelligentEngine rather than just a winger. He keeps the regain cycle alive in wide and advanced zones: 5.61 recoveries p90 (91st), then carry, combine, and warp the shape again. Win it back, reshape the vector, open another galaxy for the heroes. The heroes are still Alexander Isak and Florian Wirtz. Yan Diomande makes the route interstellar.

@Doc_A_I @mcmulhar @beyond90ftbl @ScoutLabApp I’ve already concluded, he not worth £116M and didn’t represent value for money in his output & team impact. I said it in confidence that a further 12 months will solidify my case, because many will want to write off the first season, just as you did with a list of mitigations

@Doc_A_I @mcmulhar @beyond90ftbl @ScoutLabApp There’s a season’s worth of evidence that is not accounted for by statistics, making it glaringly obvious to any savvy football observer that he’s physically not adept for the Premier League. Let’s come back in 12 months and see how effective Wirtz was in the 26-27 season.

@Barnes_Magic @mcmulhar @beyond90ftbl @ScoutLabApp No, and that’s not even remotely the discussion. ‘Runaway success after one season’ and ‘bad signing’ makes this a binary choice. It isn’t. Wirtz can have had a difficult first year and still be the right profile, signed for the right reason, with the right long-term logic.

@Doc_A_I @mcmulhar @beyond90ftbl @ScoutLabApp You think he’s been a runaway success for that transfer fee?

Budgets are limited, yes. But financial prudence is not automatically splitting the money across two cheaper players if neither actually solves the problem. You can only spend the money once. If Diomande is the player who best fixes the role, then the prudent move is signing Diomande, not buying two maybes and calling it risk management.

@Doc_A_I @mcmulhar @beyond90ftbl @ScoutLabApp Just like Wirtz fixed the role last season? 😏

@Doc_A_I @mcmulhar @beyond90ftbl @ScoutLabApp No, but budgets are limited so it’s financially prudent to get the best value for money and spread the risk. So is Diamonde the best value for money winger or can that outlay be better spent on two players who will also command lower wages?

@Barnes_Magic @mcmulhar @beyond90ftbl @ScoutLabApp That’s not how pricing works though. If one player costs £110m and another costs £40m, nobody serious is saying the first one is nearly three times better. Football transfers aren’t supermarket maths.

@Doc_A_I @mcmulhar @beyond90ftbl @ScoutLabApp Now factor in that one is valued at 40M and one is valued at 110M+. Is Diamonde almost 3 times better?

@Barnes_Magic @mcmulhar @beyond90ftbl @ScoutLabApp Nusa is a better presser, but marginally. That's about it.

@AnfieldSector I reckon Edwards and the assistant are probably doing the bulk of the transfer work this summer 👌🏼 If Hughes was all for Slot staying, then good riddance

Richard Hughes is ‘reportedly’ set to join Al Hilal after Liverpool’s transfer window business is completed. Simon Francis has already started work with the Saudi club and is expected to be Hughes’ right-hand man, while Hughes oversees both Al Hilal’s and Liverpool’s summer transfer activity.

@AnfieIdFix Just go all in for Tchou, I don’t think he can stay if Valverde is made captain

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@LBLFC_ The player market is rancid. These inflated fees are a joke

If that Elliot Anderson is worth 120 million, Ryan Gravenberch is worth 1.2 billion.