Filmer's Ghost

“…for children are naturally subject to their parents; and that civil power not only follows nature, but is grounded upon it.” — Robert Filmer, Patriarcha, ch. I

@UnanimousSpoon @Ben_Dennis_ @TheJollyBrawler Correct. We mush push forward the historical, Christian way. Or millions will die.

@Ben_Dennis_ @FilmersGhost @TheJollyBrawler One way or another, the experiment ends. The only question is what replaces it.

Regarding my post from earlier today: For those wondering why I think ecclesiology will be an important topic over the next couple of years, allow me to explain: 1. As the denominations continue down the path of wickedness; persecuting RW Brothers, propping up Lefties, hiding sexual sin and physical abuse, creating work arounds to establish female elders…… 2. More and more people are coming to realize that they are not able to join NAPARC, CREC, and LCMS churches. Either because they know they will be hunted and forced to uproot their families again. Or because they are convinced that it is sin to commune with these folks. 3. At the same time, faithful Pastors are running into the same issue. They are finding that they do not want to be associated with the wickedness taking place in their denominations. Nor do they want to be under their leadership. So they are removing their churches from the denominations and going independent. 4. This naturally leads faithful Brothers to ask questions: -How do I know that this church has legitimate authority to preach God's word and administer the sacraments? -Without the approval of a denomination or seminary, how do I know this is an actual church? -What is the essence of a true church body? 5. These are good questions. @bonifacegroup has worked to provide clear, biblical, historical, and confessional answers to just these questions. This question is already coming to the front of many discussions. But over the next few years, it will become increasingly important.

@Ben_Dennis_ @TheJollyBrawler Absolutely correct. We will all continue to flounder until a Christian king dictates the national religion.

@FilmersGhost @TheJollyBrawler Unlikely as no denomination holds any actual power. Will continue to be a quagmire until the republic falls and feudal lords once again become ecclesiastical upper management and clergy stop pretending they are theologians and more than middle management.

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@cornelius_1183 @__no__way__1 @TheJollyBrawler For reading, I would recommend Patriarcha by Robert Filmer. His context is the English Civil War, but after the reformation, this same theology of rejecting patriarchal authority really manifested itself here. It's telling: by 1600 the reformed were known as the "monarchomacts"

@FilmersGhost @__no__way__1 @TheJollyBrawler Interesting take. Do you go into more depth on this anywhere I could read or listen to?

@cornelius_1183 @__no__way__1 @TheJollyBrawler The reformers threw the authoritarian baby out with the popish bathwater. If you believe in biblical patriarchy, you just need to apply this consistently to the church (Episcopalian structures) and the state (monarchy). God created a hierarchical world.

@bonifacegroup Legitimacy: “Recognized by the right people” isn’t better than “ordained by the right person.” It’s just consensus instead of succession. You’re rejecting hierarchy without replacing what it actually does. So the problem doesn’t go away, you just renamed it. /end

@bonifacegroup - Continuity: If authority isn’t transmitted, it has to be rebuilt every generation. That’s instability, not structure. - Arbitration: When groups disagree, who decides? Without higher authority, division is inevitable. /

Swing and a miss. To assert that the properly basic form of the visible Church *just is* the local congregation of believers, and that such a little flock possesses the right and power to ordain men to carry out the ministry of the New Testament publicly, i.e., in their midst and on their behalf, is not "democracy." Authority in the Church does not subsist in, or devolve to, "the ministerium" — by that or any other name. This is to say, the ministerium has no power to perpetuate itself by itself. This has nothing to do with "democracy" or Enlightenment concepts of "consent of the governed" or any such thing and everything to do with the fact that the sheep — i.e., disciples, believers, those who have been called to faith in Christ by the Holy Ghost through the Word — hear and know the voice of the Good Shepherd and will not follow hirelings. "I got touched by the right person; ergo I'm not a hireling." Sorry, but no. So while you are right that Presbyterianism has problems, you are quite wrong in thinking that it is fundamentally different than the problem in the places you suggest the wise are, or should be, fleeing for refuge. IOW, your solution is like telling a sick man to get a blood transfusion out of his own leg.

@__no__way__1 @TheJollyBrawler We don’t want to rescue Protestantism. We want it to die and for the church to recover its hierarchical, non-Roman catholic roots.

@TheJollyBrawler @FilmersGhost I agree, but it's a major problem. The only hope of rescuing Protestantism from the ridiculous Baptist and Don't Call Me Baptist (But I am) movements is institutional, confessional Protestantism. Independent confessional doesn't help.

@TheJollyBrawler @__no__way__1 I believe there are some in Norway. ;)

@__no__way__1 @FilmersGhost Correct, but there are faithful independent Lutheran churches. (:

@Mike18143 @JoelWebbon The articles of confederation are based on liberal presuppositions, and will eventually get us back to where we are now.

“157 years old” and “determined to be ret***ed😆😂🇺🇸 Id recommend an Articles of Confederation style government 1) breakdown the federal government overreach of power, 2) put all civil rights programs with the states, 3) any persons in positions of government will have there finances public.

For all the “America First” and “Christ is King” people out there, I have a question for you? Can you agree to these terms? If not, I’m out.

Christian republic is an oxymoron

@contramordor @spanglermt Was this a recent read for him?

My father was crushed by reading The Camp of the Saints. He knows now why his spirit is distraught by the transformations all around us. He knows now what he's seeing. He knows it's all true.

@ket38111 Will will not be able to have a home until the boomers no longer matter

What happens when I hold a sign in public that says: "It is ok to be White." 👇

We allow these people to vote.

Fascism is Christian Nationalism.

@ImprecatoryOne No Presbyterian denomination has lasted longer than 79 years without major split. How can one expect to have faithful grandchildren if the religious system you are apart of cannot last one lifetime? This is essential, not accidental to Presbyterianism.

RPCNA needs a reconquista

@totusjustice -your affectionate uncle, Screwtape

"Our entire way of life is under siege. We are in a state of demographic warfare. Conservatives are just beautiful losers, and their "principles" render us defenseless against our enemies. That's exactly why I recommend you join the GOP, work with them, and do their bidding."

@Brian_Sauve This assertion rests on liberal presuppositions - that men are born free and they can, and should choose their own leaders. But Wolfe is a liberal, we all know that. Numbers has things to say about “The people rose up”…

Read this.