@LepcomD@wendelltalks These are your words:
You researched you said? Have you ever read the bible? The Answer is No
How do these words help to foster a productive dialogue with someone you barely know?
@DW2025X@wendelltalks Those by the way side are they that hear the Word then comes the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
Luke:8:12
@LepcomD@wendelltalks Hiding the gospel from those who are lost is logically incoherent because it is they who need it the most
This verse is a fantastic repudiation of the notion of "leaving the 99" because those are the people this verse specifically refers to
@DW2025X@wendelltalks Not that the is a small g with the god. This is not Almighty God. This is the devil. He is the god of this world. He is responsible for many people not believing. This is why Christians pray for people like you on daily basis. So you'd understand the Gospel. See this
@DW2025X@wendelltalks you don't understand what God wants to communicate to you. Let me break it to a simpler version
He is telling you there is a reason people don't believe the Gospel. The reason is that, the god of this world. Has blinded their minds.
Who is the god of this World?
@DW2025X@wendelltalks But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2 Corinthians:4:3-4
@LepcomD@wendelltalks While it may be "your desire", this alone does not buttress the claim nor does it give me any additional sources to turn to that might do so
HOW one shares the message is nearly as important as the message itself
@DW2025X@wendelltalks There are times we must go in strong because daily people are going to hell. The only way to get the attention of a deaf person who at the same time blind is to do something to get his attention. Unfortunately that is the case of the one who doesn't believe yet. He is blind
@DW2025X@wendelltalks That is not how it works. In fact God doesn't beat anyone in hell. You'd be surprised who does. Let me give you a logic.
Hell is created for the devil, the devil hates the human race if the human dies and goes to hell, who do you think would would torment him?
@LepcomD@wendelltalks Punishing someone for "failing to believe" something while making no provisions for due diligence, good faith or honesty is an argument I'll be happy to engage with
Again, I refer back to The Sagan Problem
@DW2025X@wendelltalks Secondly, because this statement I just made about going to read the bible to understand the purpose of life,
many have been tricked to think the bible is a fairytale. Just think about a patient believing the same medication which would save his life is poison.
@LepcomD@wendelltalks I'm very familiar with the Scriptural Hell and whether God "created" it for me or anyone else is irrelevant
No one can go there unless He signs off on it
This is logically unavoidable
@DW2025X@wendelltalks I don't know what you mean but this is how it works. Everything God wants us to know is in His Word. The bible. If you want to know what takes a person to hell, you must read the bible because that is the only true source of the purpose of life.
@DW2025X@wendelltalks This is what it is in the spirit realm. When a seed of words are sown, they grow. This is what make the bible a powerful book because they contain the Words of Almighty God.
You wouldn't understand this now but God created the entire universe with His Word
@LepcomD@wendelltalks You don't plant seeds by being dismissive of someone else's POV or their character
The most persuasive Christians are good listeners
@DW2025X@wendelltalks That if you shall confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God hath raised him from the dead, you shall be saved.
Romans:10:9
@LepcomD@wendelltalks I understand that I've presented Christians with objective truth many times and been blown off because "the Bible backs me up" (Noah's Ark found, we have the nails used on Jesus, etc)
Too often with believers "truth" is fluid
@DW2025X@wendelltalks If someone go to hell. It is because the person failed to believed the Gospel. Or the person deliberately and wilfully refused salvation.
If you you're drawing, and i stretched forth my hands to rescue you, if you deliberately ignore my help you'd perish, you'd die. That's it
@DW2025X@wendelltalks Let me show you scriptures that show God didn't create hell for you.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Matthew:25:41
@DW2025X@wendelltalks Eventhough man doesn't deserve hell, yet that is where He will go if he dies. God has to do something about this, and this thing can only be paid with a life.
For this reason Jesus came to die for humanity that we by believing might have eternal life. Amen
@DW2025X@wendelltalks Just imagine, in a court room, someone is charged with a crime He hasn't really commited while you knew the truth of it, if you were a judge, wouldn't you do everything in your power to rescue that person ?
@DW2025X@wendelltalks That is not true. Maybe those Christians don't yet know the truth.
If we all deserve to go to hell. Why would Jesus die for us while we were sinners. It doesn't make any sense.
Because we do not deserve to perish that is why God came on a rescue mission to save mankind
@DW2025X@wendelltalks Smiles 🙂🙂. You must understand that God's Word is a seed. It might not grow today. You might not see any results today. But that seed will definitely grow. I knew exactly what I was doing. And don't worry the Holy Spirit will take over from Henceforth.
@LepcomD@wendelltalks I mean no disrespect but do you truly think the manner of conversation you've just had with me has done anything to help me "believe" or brought me a single step closer to embracing your POV
Something to consider
I certainly wish you well