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@anchel_michel @NAFCA_official You can’t use a survival example to justify something, then say no one is treating it like a survival issue. That’s exactly the inconsistency I’m addressing.

@ShuaNoCompo @NAFCA_official Im not the one seeing IP law as a survival stuff level offense, you are!

海外で日本のアニメが語られていることを、嬉しく思います。 NAFCAから、海外の皆様へのメッセージです。 nafca.jp/en/ #Anime #JapaneseAnime

@anchel_michel @NAFCA_official Future conversion into paying fans is a possibility not a justification The fact that some people may support later doesn’t change the illegal and harmful nature of the access now Potential future supporters don’t turn current non licensed use into something equivalent to support

@ShuaNoCompo @NAFCA_official Indeed doesnt replace, like I said ideally would be a way to support the artist directly in a perfect world. Im a creator and I know many of my fans dont have the possibility to support me. So Im happy for those that can support me and understand those who cant but still try too

@anchel_michel @NAFCA_official Knowing the difference isn’t enough for you if you still treat them as interchangeable justifications. That’s the contradiction. The point is that you’re applying a survival-level justification to a non survival context. That mismatch is the issue. Again, learn the difference.

@ShuaNoCompo @NAFCA_official I know the difference, is you who are sticking to this point as excuse

@hassundotX @Rinne_yt This isn’t about personal morality. It’s about individual convenience can not override systems of ownership and distribution. By your logic rules stop being consistent and become optional based on preference which doesn't work. Please accept that your actions are bad in nature.

@ShuaNoCompo @Rinne_yt That depends on your own morality. If it's something I want, it is a helpful circumstance. If it's something I don't want, it is an obstacle. And yes, changing the system requires coordinated action. I hope I piqued your interest for alternatives. Thank you for the civil dialogue

The Japanese community is calling out Westerners over piracy, and it sparked a heated discussion. User (luckynosu) asked: “Why is it that so many Westerners can't understand the Japanese way of thinking that hates justifying theft?” But another user (TakumiTakumado) pushed back, pointing out that one of the biggest piracy sites reportedly gets around 45% of its traffic from Japan. It highlights a clear disconnect: in Japan, piracy is widely viewed as outright theft with little tolerance for excuses, while in Western spaces, it’s often justified due to accessibility, pricing, or availability. Meanwhile, the scale of the issue is massive, Japan estimates online piracy caused over ¥5.7 trillion (~$30B+) in digital content losses in 2025 alone.

@anchel_michel @NAFCA_official You’re forcing false equivalences between survival and entertainment to justify a preference. Disagreement with a system doesn’t convert personal rule breaking into moral correctness. Please learn the difference.

@ShuaNoCompo @NAFCA_official When law is dumb and not according to everybody realities, is dumb to follow it. Creator benefits, fans benefits. Following law because "is the law" is how you would end cutting a starved homeless kid hand because he stole an apple.

@anchel_michel @NAFCA_official That analogy doesn’t hold Survival exceptions like stealing food involve immediate necessity to prevent harm. Having access to media is not a necessity and no access is not harm. Conflating the two turns a moral exception for survival into a general justification for compliance

@anchel_michel @NAFCA_official Lack of official availability doesn’t turn unauthorized use into something morally or legally neutral. Fan promotion can be positive, but it doesn’t replace licensing, revenue, or the rights structure around the work. Promotion and consumption are different from licensing.

@ShuaNoCompo @NAFCA_official "Illegaly" perhaps, morally wrong though? They cannot provide it and wont (old series) so the creator would never get a dime of me by following the ideal way; but now im making others (even in Japan) aware of it and rediscover it by making fanarts and talking about how cool is it

@hassundotX @Rinne_yt Civil disobedience is a political tool, not a blanket justification for individual rule breaking. It requires coordinated action to change the system and acceptance of consequences not just personal convenient use of that system while still benefiting from it.

@ShuaNoCompo @Rinne_yt Individual non-compliance is part of pushing for reform. If ignoring a law becomes normal, it legitimizes abolishing it. This is what many of these AI companies are doing (examples: OpenAI, Anthropic). Again, big companies benefiting.

@hassundotX @Rinne_yt Criticizing imperfect copyright systems is fine. But choosing to ignore them personally isn’t reform and it’s just individual non compliance. Those are not the same thing. The solution is changing it collectively, not treating personal exceptions as justification to bypass it.

@ShuaNoCompo @Rinne_yt Yes and I oppose these "distribution rights" as well. They don't serve their intended purpose: protecting small creators/publishers. It's a hard problem, but these ancient pre-Internet laws are not the right solution.

@anchel_michel @NAFCA_official It may be a reason as you might pirate something but it's not justification as to why you pirate so you're still choosing illegal actions.

@NAFCA_official License more. There are literal anime I cant watch anywhere legally, not even on buying physical discs

@jord_Gefion065 @ratbastard06060 @Rinne_yt Single specific platform cases only show business strategy, not the principle being discussed. The core issue is simple and ‘no current market’ doesn’t mean ‘no impact.’ Markets are shaped long term. So ‘potential demand’ isn’t irrelevant

@ShuaNoCompo @ratbastard06060 @Rinne_yt Sure, let's ignore cases like the Bilibli platform in Spanish, where the most financially supported series were canceled to try to increase traffic with BL, causing the massive abandonment of the platform and its subsequent closure

@Neko_AF__ @BasedZaku It's literally so simple I don't know why foreigners don't get it. Piracy is bad and no argument is going to justify the nature of your actions. So don't use your personal circumstances and excuses to rebrand it as justification for an unnecessary illegal choice.

@BasedZaku I think it's because they want to try to get them to agree with them, but that ain't happening. x.com/Neko_AF__/stat…

For the past several days my timeline has been full of people arguing with Japanese people about piracy. Don't really get it. If you wanna pirate, do it, why do you need to convince some Japanese guy with facts and logic that it's okay?

@rommel435 @aoshiroyama You’re treating ‘current market’ and ‘potential market’ as completely separate, but they aren’t. A potential market only becomes real if demand signals justify investment. Piracy removes that signal. You’re artificially limiting impact to only current sales. Markets aren’t static

@ShuaNoCompo @aoshiroyama Ingresos potenciales y ahí queda no pasa de ahí rara vez eso Sucede entonces es un mercado con el que ellos no tienen en cuenta por ende no pierden ganancias

Я очень смеюсь из-за срачей с японцами за пиратство, потому что они говорят, что авторы теряют прибыль, но…. если я не могу купить продукт, значит на прибыль от меня и не рассчитывают… и если я спирачу продукт, который мне не планировали продавать, о какой прибыли речь?..

@ratbastard06060 @Rinne_yt At this point it’s not about who wants your money or where content is distributed it’s about your unauthorized use being rebranded as justified simply because its preferred. I will do it anyway is a statement of illegal choice not an argument that it’s valid. Learn the difference

@ShuaNoCompo @Rinne_yt A lot of lip service that I dont care for. Bottom line is they don't want our money, cares not for our support, and wants to kept their products native to them, and so long as that is their logic I will continue to pirate. You're not convincing me otherwise.

@CynicalHeartber @Rinne_yt Accessibility issues can explain why piracy happens, but they don’t make it necessary or justified. ‘Hard to access’ isn’t the same as ‘no choice.’ It just means the legal path is inconvenient or limited Otherwise every inconvenience becomes a justification to bypass ownership.

@Rinne_yt what many Japanese who hate pirating dont realise is that if they made content Easier to access and with less translation issues we wouldnt NEED to pirate content... Its not like i could waltz into a store in the UK and pick up a copy of Onegai My Melody in English officially

@hassundotX @Rinne_yt The difference between theft and copying is about method not legitimacy Unauthorized copying still violates distribution rights regardless of whether a physical object is removed. Companies are the legal rights holders of the work. Whether they are ‘bad’ doesn’t change ownership

@Rinne_yt 「ソフトウェアの不正コピー」 I am confident Japanese people are smart enough to understand the difference between stealing and copying. They are not bad in the same way. Bonus: Companies are not people. Don't defend them like they are holy people. Many are greedy and uncaring.

@ratbastard06060 @Rinne_yt You’re treating market intention as static, but it isn’t. Companies don’t just serve pre selected regions forever they respond to viability. Piracy still replaces potential licensing, distribution, and future market expansion even if that market wasn’t active yet.

@Rinne_yt They made it abundantly clear that overseas civilians were never intended to be customers, and that their products should remain native to them, therefore my money was never a factor and my piracy now harmless. Their logic, not mine, but it's logic I'll gladly accept.

@ShittyTartaruga @aoshiroyama It’s not about whether they specifically planned to sell to you in person They don’t need to have a guaranteed sale planned for there to be economic value If content is consumed for free at scale, it reduces the incentive and leverage to license, localize, or distribute it later.

@ShuaNoCompo @aoshiroyama It doesn't matter if is more than one "lost sale" bc since the beginning there wasn't any way for ppl in other countries to buy it, since they didn't intend to sell it to us in the first place. How can they lose money that they didn't want to receive in the first place?

@mbn0072185001 @aoshiroyama Even if piracy decreases when legal access improves, that’s a statement about behavior under convenience and not a justification of the behavior itself. People choosing the easier legal option doesn’t turn the illegal option into something valid.

@ShuaNoCompo @aoshiroyama But they don't, it's been proven over and over again that when there is a reliable source to buy a product the piracy of said product drops a lot, because it's the safer way

@pandasticafanta @grpeephole303 @neroopinion If restricted access automatically justified bypassing rules then there would be no stable rule or distribution system at all and only personal exceptions. At that point the concept of licensing, pricing, or regional distribution stops functioning entirely.

@ShuaNoCompo @grpeephole303 @neroopinion Si hay censura por parte de los medios oficiales, o simplemente el gobierno no te permiten tener el producto me parece legítimo que la persona que quiera consumir un medio lo haga. Si no vives como en una secta.

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