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Hii I'm new - I'd make a strawpage or whatever people do but I'm too lazy and there are too many things to list. I like stuff, I like yapping about stuff and I like criticizing or making fun of stuff.

@Madeofsweetmeat He stopped everytime and asked if it was fine - she said yes. Many neurotypical people wouldn't pick up she secretely means no let alone a retard. This is what happens when you let stupid people touch each other

"Consent cant not be retracted 6 months later" Wow. You are so close. If its "being retracted 6 months later", its almost as if. Wow. Its almost as if it wasnt there in the first place.

@reisakuma_ensta You're very attractive for saying this

people not reading this fully are the reason why innocent peoples lives can get ruined so quickly & easily. it's clear that BOTH sides did not communicate their needs properly which has caused problems, pain and unnecessary arguing for both people.

@MaricCraft ..okay? He aimed for what's the most important while in the hospital..? What are we getting at here

HE GENUINELY ONLY TRIED TO DISPUTE WHAT REN SAID BE DIDNT EVEN TRY TO DISPUTE THE OTHER ALLEGATIONS OF HIM BEING RACIST, MISOGYNIST, HOMOPHOBIC, AND ABELIST

@AbyssticMyst He stopped each time and only continued when she said yes; they proceeded to have a second session a few days later. Unless we want zeal to be a mind reader this point is flimsy.

Ren stated she screamed no over and over, but then said yes to PLEASE YOU, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE MAD AT HER. "Consent cannot be retracted 6 months later" The "consent" in question was already forced, and wasn't there to begin with.

"can't be revoked AFTER 6 MONTHS" genuinely just straight up illiterate - you can't even fake being this maliciously retarded

@tallcowyt He did say why he started cutting her off - she went on to tell quite a few people about the encounter when he told her not to. Didn't feel like he could trust her - tried to leave.

So after comparing both documents, I think I’ve come to a conclusion. And I don’t think many people will like what I have to say. Disclaimer: Everything mentioned here is alleged, this does not mean it’s true or happened, nor am I saying that. I am not a lawyer, nor am I qualified to make a decision, so please do not count on what I’m saying as facts and do your own research. What Zeal’s document is claiming is that there was some sort of active participation and positive engagement from Ren, which he interpreted as consent to having sex. They clearly had a loving relationship together with feelings for each other, and in Zeal’s eyes, he thinks he did not SA Ren because he genuinely thought she did consent. However, Ren didn’t. She was clearly influenced by distress and wasn’t a fully free or enthusiastic agreement, which was clear to Zeal as it matched his account from his document. The meaning of consent is NOT the absence of a no, it is an active and clear “yes”, which was not present according to Ren’s testimony. Zeal barely even mentions anything to do with a first sexual encounter and only talks about the kiss, this is where it gets really difficult as both of their accounts about the two sexual encounters just don’t fucking match up at all. And there’s no way to tell from that alone who’s in the right and who’s in the wrong. However, I think I’ve just figured out who might be. Zeal described that during RDC, according to him he found out Ren had told others about their encounters, without providing any sort of evidence, not even like a screenshot of anything, and he ended up cutting off with Ren. This is really strange as they clearly had a loving relationship with each other and this also matches Ren’s document where she claimed Zeal would repeatedly cut off and reconnect contact with her. This gives me a huge incentive to trust Ren over Zeal, however I still don’t know for sure. Was Zeal completely in the wrong? I have no fucking clue. The way he talks about the encounters in his document makes it seem like he clearly didn’t mean any harm and I’m just so conflicted honestly. I hope this tweet helped some others think about it at the very least

@hPaQHKBQh5939 @tallcowyt He.. did? Yeah let's fucking go just pull arguments out of your sorry ass

@tallcowyt Hey, don't forget he never even mentioned the '5-year Google Doc' comment. He didn't even try to deny it. It' s actually hilarious.

guys Ren isn't letting y'all tap; she might take back consent 6 months later anyway

@crynaxet Don't?? Pretty much any summary is tainted by bias in some way - that's how you have challenged Ren stans going around arguing something taken out their arse because 13 year old shtwt timmy said so

dude i genuinely don’t know how to feel about this anymore i can barely even understand or process these documents and im going off what other people have said like a summary and idk if i should

You're 15 you don't know shit - don't you have primary homework or something??? Maybe ask the other Ren stans for the names of the shapes you have to guess but I doubt they'd answer considering their intelligence

@eilotee1 Do you people only have like 2 arguments? It's getting pathetic. Someone's life could've gotten pretty much ruined over what could be false allegations, Eli. For people who claim that are sympathetic - you don't think about others at all, your only goal is virtue signalling.

you guys just zeal to be correct so you all can play the game

@HelloItsVG Adding Ren's "I didn't lie but if something's wrong it's a mistake" statement whatever trust I had left for her has plummeted - she has proven multiple times you can't take her words seriously because she herself doesn't know what she's even saying. Doesn't mean I support zeal.

Zeal just dropped his full counter-document + multi-tweet thread this morning posted by his family on his behalf while he remains hospitalized after his suicide attempt on April 9th. >Doctors have him offline with no personal internet access, so his mom has been visiting, reading supportive messages aloud to him, and helping structure/post everything. He wrote most of it on a borrowed laptop while still in the hospital. I spent time reading thru 10K+ word document and investigated every key section, timeline, verbatim quotes, and counters: >Zeal explains the timeline: >On April 8th when Ren dropped the 145+ page assault document >he immediately signed off and started writing his defense >because he says the claims were false. >But within 24 hours, “many of my friends, co-workers, and those I looked up to the most, left, blocked, harassed and distanced themselves from me.” >That “mass abandonment” before he could even respond caused him to spiral and attempt suicide that same night. >He was hospitalized, and he’s still there. >He thanks the people who reached out to his mom and waited for his side instead of instant cancellation: “Writing this document has been a painful, grueling and deeply humiliating experience… I need to share a lot of incredibly personal details about myself that I would rather have stayed private. However, I believe that sharing these details are necessary in order to defend my name.” >Core claim: The RDC 2025 hotel encounters were mutual and consensual the entire time. >They had known each other 5 years, flirted heavily beforehand >Ren had been venting to him constantly about her own mental health struggles and past relationships. >Detailed play-by-play from the doc (his version): - Sept 3rd: Ren was crying in the lobby -> Zeal comforted her with hugs (with prior permission). >She invited him to her room after crying again. >She initiated the kiss (“Can I kiss you?”). >They made out, interlocked fingers (he says not aggressive pinning >When she said “it hurts,” he immediately stopped, asked if she was okay, and asked if he could try again — she said yes. >No penetration that night. >He was inexperienced, embarrassed by his performance, left briefly to wash up and provide aftercare, then came back. >He even joked about writing a “Google Doc” about how bad he was at it. - Sept 4th: They bought lube together (awkwardly). >Second encounter was slower, at Ren’s pace, with more consent checks. >Again no penetration, other activities. >He slept over, they showered, talked affectionately, and she slept on his chest. >Specific denials of Ren’s most graphic claims (verbatim counters): - “I did not ‘pin her down’… The intention was not to pin her down, but to simply hold her hands.” - “I did not finger Ren ‘aggressively’, just poorly. I did it slowly, and when she expressed discomfort, I stopped and asked if she was okay. I asked if I could try again and she said yes.” (Ren was guiding him visually by doing it herself.) >No forcing finger down throat (his long hair accidentally fell in her mouth once). >When she said “No” to something later, it was after the fact and in a “laughingly embarrassed tone” (he covered up immediately) >He provided aftercare (washed them both up) and did not leave her “dismissive” or in distress. >Strongest evidence he provides: Post-RDC messages, Twitter posts, and explicit drawings from Ren that directly contradict an immediate assault narrative: >Ren on Twitter shortly after: “And I’m rly glad u care a lot and didn’t try anything uncomfortable to me.” >Compliments: “Ur so lovely and caring and handsome and smart and talented and cute and big n strong yet soft and gentle I never felt this special or this important to someone before.” >She sent fantasies, explicit positive descriptions of the night, and drawings weeks later while they were thousands of miles apart. >Zeal argues: if it was assault, why did she repeat and describe the encounters positively for weeks afterward? >Why he cut contact: After RDC, Ren disclosed their private intimacy to multiple people (six), and team members against his explicit wishes (major breach of trust). >She also harassed other team members (uncomfortable DMs, following, etc.). >He tried to slowly distance without triggering her self-harm >No team complicity: “No other team members were present during the encounters, and those who learned about it learned it from Ren afterwards.” >Conclusion in the doc: He owns his communication failures and blurred professional/personal lines but refuses the “assault” label. >He says Ren may now genuinely feel it was non-consensual due to trauma/retroactive processing (especially with her mental health history), but the contemporaneous messages and her own words at the time show otherwise. >He’s not dismissing her feelings but providing full context so people can see both sides. >This is the most detailed “he said/she said” we’ve gotten yet — raw post-event evidence, full timeline, and specific rebuttals to every major claim in Ren’s document. It directly challenges the assault narrative with what Zeal says is proof of mutual enjoyment and ongoing positive communication. >At the same time, trauma responses (fawning, people-pleasing, delayed reframing) are very real, especially with the mental health struggles both have openly discussed. >>This whole thing is messy, complicated, and devastating for everyone involved. >Still hospitalized >No personal internet >Family posting. >He asks the community to stop the harassment and pile-ons on either side until more facts come out. -Here's things that “don’t make sense” for from my view- >Zeal: Ren actively asked “Can I kiss you?”, smiled/giggled, guided him. >Ren: limp, nonverbal, dissociated, crying for hours. >Zeal says accidental hickeys on day 2 during “consensual” round. Doesn’t fully explain Ren’s bruise photos. > He says he distanced because Ren “harassed” team and broke trust. >Ren says it was sudden abandonment trauma right after the events. >Doc is way more polished than Zeal’s usual chaotic style. >Parents helped write/structure it while he’s hospitalized. It's another tough he-said/she-said situation.... Legally and ethically, consent has to be freely given in the moment. Consent can be withdraw at any point. No one is definitively “in the right” here... and we probably never will be without a court, full unedited evidence, or third-party witnesses. >What’s your take now that we have Zeal’s full side, the raw post-RDC messages, and the detailed counters? >Have you read the entire new doc yet? >Drop your thoughts below.

@ArrtyBoi That argument is dead already because the person admitted to lying, move on to fawning next or whatever

Yknow we saw you playing a video game known as Arsenal on roblox can you atleast acknowledge that and say if it was really you or not

I didnt sleep all night #ewron #ewronfanart #qsmp

docs.google.com/document/d/1_6… Additional Context and Clarification Regarding Recent Allegations

@Phosiphosy @7GB0_ no

@mizer1aa @7GB0_ Stop interacting with fandom pls if you hate it so much

hello all, i think this is something important thats been needed to be said recently. all information and decisions made about phighting go through all of us and are decided collectively, the amount of hate directed to soda simply for posting information comes off as misogynistic

Why is every roblox fandom just the virtue signalling olympics? You either act like an artificial echo chamber or you're cooked