George Sinclair
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India is right there as an example of what would have happened if China had allowed itself to become a neocolony.
Michelle@D162Michele
Imagine where China would be today if this CIA-backed colour revolution had been successful.
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@Jushg5ve Ok, can you please answer this question again? You know USA and Germany are not neighbours right?
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George Sinclair@GeorgeFSinclair
@Jushg5ve Shall we focus on Germany first and the USSR later? Germany lost all of its colonies after ww1. After ww2, Germany was bombed out, divided in half, foreign assets stripped, no colonies. But in 1950s, west germany experienced Wirtschaftswunder. Why was that?
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@GeorgeFSinclair No as I said before colonialism
Gave them a head start not just in gdp but technologically too while other nations were ravaged by colonialism and had to start from zero like India and others like China post ww2, yes it was not just that but also do to the context of the Cold War
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China should 'acknowledge the truth' about Tiananmen, Taiwan president says reut.rs/3S0j199 reut.rs/3S0j199
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Mainland China and Hong Kong have different legal/electoral systems because HK was a former British colony returned under special terms. Thats the whole point of the Basic Law and one country two systems.
And thats why I stopped using HK as the example. For mainland China, use mainland people’s congress elections.
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@HandsOffDPRK China has better democratic system than Hong Kong? Why doesn't China ask Hong Kong to follow?
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Same country, still a different system.
Hence why I prefer to use another example now.
Mainland China is the better example...local peoples congress deputies at county/township level are directly elected, then higher congresses are elected upward indirectly.
thus china is democratic.
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@HandsOffDPRK If China is democratic, isn't Hong Kong democratic too?
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@GeorgeFSinclair Hong Kong is not mainland china. Same government, two systems.
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@GeorgeFSinclair hong kong is not mainland china and was a weak example. so try focus in the mainland china one.
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@HandsOffDPRK No, just the Hong Kong one. You bring up Hong Kong so I just want to focus on Hong Kong electoral conference.
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@GeorgeFSinclair I already did though
english.www.gov.cn/news/topnews/2…
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@HandsOffDPRK During the 2000 summit, Kim Jong Il told Kim Dae-jung that he wanted US troops to stay in Korea to keep China and Russia from taking over. If a communist dictator believed the US military presence is a stabilizer, not occupying colonial force, why are you still arguing?
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@Jushg5ve If not about colonialism, why does Europe have high GDP growth? Is that because of democracy?
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@GeorgeFSinclair Ok the conversation was about democracy making countries richer yes is not just colonialism but that’s besides the initial point
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@HandsOffDPRK Would you tell him that his country was being controlled by the US military?
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@GeorgeFSinclair If I was the leader of north korea and met with the leader of south korea which is Kim Dae-jung would I meet him?
Yes, because diplomatic relations are not an alliance.
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@HandsOffDPRK That's why you need to prove your point. Retweeting what you say is not proving. I need you to simply tell me the date of the last election for the electoral conference by the masses.
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@GeorgeFSinclair It wasn't made up though...
chinas mass elections are held at a local level, those local politicians start electing their leadership and create an intra-party democracy.
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Tankie ☭@HandsOffDPRK
there are different types and forms of elections. China does have mass elections, but mainly at the lowest levels: county, township, town, etc. China’s own government says deputies to county- and township-level people’s congresses are directly elected by voters, while deputies above county level are elected indirectly by the people’s congress at the next lower level. Source: english.www.gov.cn/news/202503/06… Those who get elected engage in whats called an intra-party democracy which start electing their leadership of the party english.www.gov.cn/archive/china_… If the leader is bad you change leadership not the party
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@HandsOffDPRK Maybe you don't understand my question. Let me ask you this way. If you were the general secretary of the workers party of korea and Kim Dae-jung was the president at that time, what would you do? Would you willingly meet him?
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@GeorgeFSinclair I created an hypothetical scenario because its the best way to answer your question that did not make sense.
What is north korea supposed to do to a person in the south? It only makes sense if they were in the north.
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@HandsOffDPRK Because I think you just make it up. You need to prove your point.
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@GeorgeFSinclair why does any of this matter? I told you already how chinas democratic system works.
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@GeorgeFSinclair Because west Germany experienced lots of USA financial support, this was the Cold War bro you need to change the context from a single country to USA strategy agaisnt the Soviets which post ww2 its intertwined
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@HandsOffDPRK Why do you create a hypothetical scenario then? I am just simply asking you what North Korea should do with him.
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@HandsOffDPRK What are you talking about? Do you even know who Kim Dae-jung is?
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@GeorgeFSinclair I answered your question. How would north korea deal with Kim Dae jung if hes a south korean politician?
I answered in a way in a hypothetical scenario of him being an north korean politician.
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@HandsOffDPRK When was the last election for the electoral conference by the masses?
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@GeorgeFSinclair That’s because NPC deputies from Hong Kong are chosen by an electoral conference, not by universal direct vote. This is called an intra party democracy
the electoral conference politicians would be voted in by the masses, setting the bases of the intra party democracy.
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@HandsOffDPRK That's not my question...
What do you think North Korea should do with Kim Dae-jung?
That's what I ask.
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@GeorgeFSinclair Purge traitors and US imperialist sympathizers throughout the party and to achieve political sovereignty.
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@HandsOffDPRK "The representatives were chosen by around 1,273 voters from the city’s Election Committee."
Why only 1273 votes?
What is the population of Hong Kong?
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@GeorgeFSinclair I gave you a new one because you were not satisfied with the answer I gave you with the old one.
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@Jushg5ve Shall we focus on Germany first and the USSR later? Germany lost all of its colonies after ww1. After ww2, Germany was bombed out, divided in half, foreign assets stripped, no colonies. But in 1950s, west germany experienced Wirtschaftswunder. Why was that?
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