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Indiana Brunner

@IndianaBrunner

In the beginning, God… // Psalm 37:23-24

Присоединился Ağustos 2013
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Indiana Brunner
Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
Do you ever just sit in silence, not knowing what to think, or feel, or even pray? That numb, hollow feeling like in Psalm 88 where you feel buried in a pit, forgotten, surrounded by darkness. And still… you wait. You wait on the Lord. Not because you feel strong, but because He is. Not because you have the right words, but because His Spirit intercedes when you have none. Even in the silence, even in the pit, His promises remain. He is near to the brokenhearted. He knows. He sees. And He does not abandon. Jesus said the Father doesn’t hear us for our many words… maybe it’s in the humbling silence that He hears your groaning heart most clearly. And somehow that’s worship, as we sit, and wait, in silence.
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@tjxrewards So you’re saying that fulfilled prophecy from BOTH the Old and New Testament is not good evidence for divine inspiration? I’m not talking about mere continuity…
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Aidan Fahey
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@IndianaBrunner This changes nothing. The assent to Scripture as divinely inspired does not come from simply recognizing continuity between the OT and the NT.
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
@tjxrewards “Multiple prophecies written hundreds of years before Christ fulfilled in the first century” Did you miss that part?
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@IndianaBrunner Glad you’re honest about the Protestant assent to Scripture’s inspiration being on the basis of human recognition as opposed to revelation. Divine inspiration is, of course, an object of revelation and needs to be revealed, but this poses problems for the Protestant. Farewell!
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
Multiple prophecies written hundreds of years before Christ fulfilled in the first century… Jesus Christ himself and those who witnessed Jesus Christ resurrect from the dead attest to Scriptures infallibility. I have good reason to believe the Bible to be true and God inspired. Now… I’ll ask again. By what objective standard can anything outside of scripture be identified as infallible.
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Aidan Fahey
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@IndianaBrunner By what objective standard does one know Scripture is inspired? Protestants: 🤷‍♂️
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
@AlanChilders6 📖 Matthew 28:19-20 “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inthe name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
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@IndianaBrunner Jesus grounds the restriction of pastoral authority as belonging only to Him.
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
Paul grounds the restriction of pastoral authority in the creation order—not in cultural circumstances.
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@IndianaBrunner Willing to share a specific case with me?
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
No one hates on the Bible more than online Catholic and Orthodox apologists.
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
@kdwelds I did not say they hate the Bible. I said they “hate on” the Bible as in criticize it as insufficient or talk down on scripture as if it’s incomplete or even dangerous.
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@IndianaBrunner I’m not an apologist, but I’d gladly engage. I love the Bible. Can you show me how I hate it?
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
@JamesDueck There is no objective standard by which you can point to anything other than the Bible as infallible.
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James Dueck🇻🇦
James Dueck🇻🇦@JamesDueck·
I’m convinced that any Protestant who does their own earnest research into Sola Scriptura will eventually come out Catholic.
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
Because they did not believe Jesus when he said he came down from heaven. Go re-read the chapter. They first “grumbled” at his claim that he came from heaven. Jesus specifically tells us in verse 63 that “the words I have spoken to you are spirit.” He was not speaking in physically literal terms when he said to eat his flesh. It’s more than a symbol, though. It’s a proclamation of the gospel. Stop using what Christ instituted for Christian unity to divide the body of Christ.
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
Cult followers are hard to reason with because, in a cult, you can arbitrarily revise what you believe whenever you’re challenged, meaning there’s never a fixed standard you can actually test. Mormonism is a good example of this. I’m fairly familiar with Mormon theology (still learning, of course), and I’ve noticed that whenever the differences between Christianity and Mormonism are pointed out, the response is often, “You misunderstand what we actually believe.” For example, if I say Mormons do not believe in one uncreated Creator God of all that exists, the response is usually a simple denial—even though Mormon theology teaches that God the Father himself was once a man who progressed to godhood, that other gods exist, and that humans can likewise become gods through exaltation. Within cults, teachings are often softened, rephrased, or reframed over time—but the historical record remains. When you question these historical beliefs, the response is usually that you’re “uninformed” or that you “misunderstand what we actually believe.” In reality, you’re just being gaslit.
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
@ExLetum The gaslighting done by you Mormons is hilarious tbh 😆 yall wanna be Christians so bad… reject Joseph smith and embrace the truth found in Christ alone buddy
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@IndianaBrunner They would and I’m not but it’s easier just to accuse people of lying I suppose
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
@ExLetum No they wouldn’t. You’re lying. Mormons believe in many gods. They do not believe in one true God who created all things in existence.
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@IndianaBrunner Mormons would agree with all of those statements
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
@Gitzmob The word originated from the word used for “shepherd” in scripture and is used many times in the New Testament.
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
@ExLetum God became a man in the person of Christ. God was not a man in a past life. He is the first and the last. None are before him.
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@IndianaBrunner Roughly 50% true. Do you not believe Christ was a man subject to the same pains and temptations as you and me?
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
Mormons don’t believe in one God who created all things in existence. They believe the God of the Bible was a man just like you and me who became God and then had spirit babies God the mother and had Jesus and Satan (brothers according to Mormons). They are not Christians. They are followers of a sci fi author.
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@IndianaBrunner Yeah people who worship Christ and believe he’s God are definitely not Christian
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Indiana Brunner@IndianaBrunner·
The only thing I sometimes wish were different about Sunday church is this: when I hear the gospel proclaimed in song, it makes me want to dance. I know that might sound silly, but the good news of the gospel, especially in music form, fills my heart with joy, and dancing is a perfectly natural expression of that joy in such a context. I’m not dissatisfied with our worship at all! I just wish there wasn’t such a stigma around moving your body joyously. Sadly, a lot of that stigma comes from the chaotic displays we often see in charismatic settings, which makes people assume any physical expression of joy within worship must be the same thing.
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