OU Charming But Irrational

@wholemars Yes.

Would shitting my pants be considered critical, or discomfort?

@wholemars They could give an FSD discount to people who leave it on and provide feedback for their effort on a given month.

People shouldn’t be forced to provide feedback against their will If someone wants to do it, pop it up. If they don’t want to do it, don’t bother them.

@aceracer83 @SawyerMerritt Yeah, with that constraint, more control would clearly be ideal for you. Be able to have the accel/lane change habits of Std/hurry/whatever, but never exceed whatever limit you assign it.

@OU_CBI @SawyerMerritt Almost all my driving is done on Uber/Lyft they track speed. Chill is too slow and standard, well...

If you use any version of FSD (Supervised) V14, what is the most common reason you disengage (even if it’s rare)?

@TSak70 @SawyerMerritt I put nav/routing, but I forgot that I in fact almost never let it pick a parking spot. I want spots safer from damage (the car would need to be judgy about other cars for that), in the shade (I'm in NM), or ideally both.

@SawyerMerritt Parking preference 99% of the time

@aceracer83 @SawyerMerritt I end up dialing back the FSD mode when that happens. Main rd near my house is a 50 mph rd, but 59 is fine, everyone drives that speed. The car will exceed 60 (instant ticket on the speed cam it doesn't know about).

@SawyerMerritt Honestly most of my disengagements are due to standard ignoring speed limit+5. It'd be routing/nav otherwise.

@jbeyda @SawyerMerritt I showed that to my buddy's 92 YO mom last night on her new Y, since it invariably takes a long (1.5-2 miles?), crazy alternate route by turning R from her driveway to the get to a grocery store 0.7 miles away (L from driveway, right onto main road, R into store lot).

@SawyerMerritt you can use the turning stalk to control routing / navigation and lane changes. try it. it’s a hidden feature

@SawyerMerritt Almost always routing/nav, or parking (that is simply it's choice of which space, it parks just fine). It makes the same routing errors in a few places I go every single time. Random tours of dead end neighborhoods, or going around a block instead of just making a left turn.

@yunta_tsai I'd like more route control, including the ability to tell you guys WHY I rejected a route. Ie Not wanting the random tour of a dead end neighborhood (gray) every time it plots the route home from the grocery store:

A lot of AI engineers have spent their most productive years chasing benchmarks instead of solving useful cases they can relate to. If the car fails to take me home, then I simply fail at my job and can’t go home. That’s it.

@Teslarati Or not park in tight spaces (won't matter to ME with ASS, but will get the car door-dinged).

@Teslarati I'd like to see parking preferences remembered by the car. Here in NM, I don't care how far away it parks, if it preferentially parks in the shade from maybe Apr-Oct, for example. Given how nice the new Y looks, not parking next to cars that look like they will ding me as well.

Tesla making such noticeable and widespread improvements to ASS means when Banish finally arrives, you’ll never have to deal with a parking lot again Get dropped off and picked up at the front door

@WadeMiller My Model Y that I've had for 24 days is fantastic, I use FSD constantly—and I thought it would be a parlor trick, maybe useful on the highway. I've essentially given up driving.

I bought a Tesla. Never thought I’d get an electric vehicle, but took a ride in a buddy’s Tesla and changed my mind. I’ve been using the supervised self-driving mode for my daily commute into DC. It’s pretty amazing. Today the car suddenly moved into the left lane, very abruptly. In that split second a very large piece of debris blew into the lane I had been in. The Tesla self driving system saw what I couldn’t see. When I drive I can only see from the perspective of the driver side front seat. The Tesla has multiple censors with different angles of view. It saw what I couldn’t. Importantly, even I I had seen it at the same time, the split second that it would have taken me to check blind spots and then consciously make the decision to move over would have taken too long. The Tesla knew all these variables simultaneously and almost instantly and was able to avoid impact safely. Well done @elonmusk and @Tesla team.

@jessalanfields @wholemars My new Y is at 93% FSD and increasing. I've driven between 500k-750k miles manually in my life, and I enjoy driving—or I did. FSD is just so relaxing, I'm sorta done with driving.

@wholemars Driving will be like writing with a pen: a choice of pleasure, not necessity

“Long term, the only manually driven car will be the new Tesla Roadster” — Elon Musk

@Teslarati @TX_huesOH I'll call everything critical I guess.

@TX_huesOH So when my Tesla tried to turn left at an intersection where left turns aren’t allowed, I take over because Nav tries to do it, what should I push?

It is pretty interesting there is no option for Navigation, as that’s a common complaint and reason for an intervention

@Teslarati 100%. My car will do the same nav error every single time at 2 places I go fairly often. One plots an odd around the block route instead of just turning left out of a driveway, the other wants to drive me into a dead end neighborhood leaving the grocery store.

@txsalth2o @RadioactiveIM3 @Tesla Heck, look at all the people holding phones and driving. An elderly person monitoring FSD (which I use daily, current FSD % is 92%) is vastly safer than literally any driver using a phone while driving.

Right. She has zero accidents on her record. She is fully cognitive. And though I think she’s dangerous, she’s just as dangerous as 50% of the people on the road. “Hey, California DMV? I’d like you to revoke my mom’s license because I think she’s a dangerous driver” You’re on glue, and going on mute. I’d say get back to me when you have to deal with an aging parent, but I guantee you’ll be the sibling that coasts and makes your siblings do the rest of the work while playing quarterback care giver.

My 80 yr old mom is a dangerous driver. I’ve been trying to get her to test drive a @Tesla for over a year. Tricked her into taking a test drive last week. She was cranky about it. She reluctantly got behind the wheel, said “take me to the nearest McDonalds” It drove her there and parked. She acted unimpressed. I mentioned the price of gas in CA. And what it would be like to have the car drive to LA for her. Once we left the dealership she started making plans on where she was going to put the charger in her garage. 🤣 Tesla needs to do a better job of targeting senior citizens with their marketing.

@txsalth2o @Tesla Was raving to by buddy about my MY running FSD, and he had his parents in their 90s try one. Their Tesla will be delivered this week.

@wholemars Most of the time it's flawless for me (current % is now 92%), but it makes the same nav mistakes over and over. There's a dead end street near our closest grocery sore and it insists on plotting the route home down that street, turning around, then the way it should have gone.

It hit me yesterday when I was going to pick up lunch. I pre-cooled the Tesla Model 3 from my phone, and set the destination to the restaurant. Then I hit start self-driving. Mad Max mode, park in the parking lot. The car drove so confidently, it's movements were so lifelike... I just couldn't believe it. The way it drives is... confident... comforting... better than anything I could have imagined. As it drove me to pick up my lunch order, I changed the music on my phone. I turned up the music and danced a little as I opened X and started reading and replying to peoples comments. It got to the restaurant before I even realized where we were, pulled into the parking lot, and parked perfectly. I picked up the food, put it in the frunk, and then got in the car. Tapped Home (Mad Max, Park in Driveway selected automatically) and then hit self-driving. The car drove me back home like a work of art. It didn't send the food flying around. It was just perfect. When it got home it parked in the driveway, right where the car was before I left, and I brought the food inside. It just hit me like damn, they really created a personally owned Robotaxi. This is the user experience I have been dreaming of for years, and now it's here. It's really working, and it's better than I imagined. The coming months and years will be a lot of fun as we just remove the driver out of the equation entirely.

@Teslarati I find driving in town tedious now (so I let the new Model Y do it 91% of the time (and increasing)). I think the car driving itself has calmed me, I don't really care about the idiot not passing in the passing lane like I did a few weeks ago.

What has your Tesla changed for you about owning a car?

Full-duration static fire for the first time on Starship V3

@Teslarati I'm a week into my new Tesla, & I would love to see navigation be a little better, my only FSD complaints have been bizarre nav choices it makes. It would be nice to tell Grok to follow a manual drive trip, A to B, then be able to favorite that exact route. Current FSD % is 87%.

Using Grok for a quick navigation update in your Tesla is a superpower