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Joel Pollak
Joel Pollak@joelpollak·
The only thing you need to know about the situation regarding Iran is that the United States has never, since the Barbary Wars over 200 years ago, accepted that a foreign potentate would be able to control freedom of the seas and demand tribute. It's the reason we built a Navy.
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Ramji Srinivasan b/ruv
Ramji Srinivasan b/ruv@hereisramji·
@joelpollak Why not though? What’s wrong with simply paying a toll? Is the concern the price would be debilitating?
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Charles Cross
Charles Cross@charlescross01·
@hereisramji @joelpollak There's nothing "only" about it. Let's call it what it is, protection money. You have to pay up or bad things will happen to you. It's bullying and blackmail that can't be tolerated anywhere. And, by the way, there are two sides to the strait and Iran doesn't own both.
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Ramji Srinivasan b/ruv
Ramji Srinivasan b/ruv@hereisramji·
@charlescross01 @joelpollak I understand, but we do seem to pay tolls in other waterways:
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**Tolls US Commercial Ships Pay to Foreign Countries for Safe Passage (2025-2026 rates)** | Waterway | Country | Tolls Required? | Approximate Toll per Typical Transit | Notes | |----------|---------|-----------------|-------------------------------------|-------| | Strait of Hormuz | Iran | Yes | $1M-$2M (oil tanker) | Ad-hoc fees; opposed by US | | Suez Canal | Egypt | Yes | $300K-$700K | Large vessels; 2025 rates | | Panama Canal | Panama | Yes | $400K-$1.1M | Vessel size dependent; 2025 tariffs | | Turkish Straits (Bosphorus & Dardanelles) | Turkey | Yes | ~$4,500 avg | $5.83/net ton (July 2025) | | Strait of Malacca | Indonesia/Malaysia/Singapore | No | $0 | international transit passage under UNCLOS | | Strait of Gibraltar | Spain/Morocco | No | $0 | international transit passage under UNCLOS | | Bab el-Mandeb | Yemen/Djibouti | No | $0 | international transit passage under UNCLOS | | Kiel Canal | Germany | Yes | $5K-$20K | Gross tonnage based; 2025 rates | | Corinth Canal | Greece | Yes | $2K-$5K | Length/GT based; 2025 fees | | Danish Straits (Great Belt, Øresund) | Denmark | No | $0 | international transit passage under UNCLOS | | English Channel / Dover Strait | United Kingdom/France | No | $0 | international transit passage under UNCLOS | Tolls exclude pilotage and tugs. Rates change yearly. US ships follow the same rules as other nations except where opposed. Most natural straits charge $0.

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