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"Ideological saturation means an atomization into small antagonistic quantities which can no more avoid destroying one another than being smashed by the qualitative negativity of popular rejection." -Raoul Vaneigem
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Iivana Lemmetyinen | Lemmetöin Vana
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Iivana Lemmetyinen | Lemmetöin Vana
@ALemppu
Monen identiteetin persvakojuntti, vakaumuksellinen barbaari. Heimo idästä, murre hämeestä. Historianopettaja ja ohjelmistoinsinööri.
North Karelia, Finland เข้าร่วม Ağustos 2018
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Iivana Lemmetyinen | Lemmetöin Vana รีทวีตแล้ว
30 years of negotiations:
nothing to show for it.
30 days of military confrontation:
Iranian oil unsanctioned, total control asserted over Hormuz strait.
This is creating a timeline where militarist conservatives run Iran indefinitely. The reformists are beyond discredited.
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Iivana Lemmetyinen | Lemmetöin Vana รีทวีตแล้ว
You know, it turns out it wasn't just one Iranian school that was hit that killed 175 people, it turns out that we have hit 498 education facilities in Iran. Not only that, we've also hit 275 hospitals. Are we great yet? Cuz from where I'm standing we just look like terrorists.
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@JohnHundeslit Oh, we can rebuild the relationship later, but the requirement for that is US to get its shit together.
Right now the demented idiot child rapist represents the nation, and they should pack up and go to their shithole country and come back to civilized world when they behave.
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I'm not especially convinced we need to write off the USA as an ally. Trump is 79, and only has two years and nine months left of his final term. I don't forsee Trumpism outlasting him for very long.
Rasmus Jarlov@RasmusJarlov
In the future, there will be three major powers in the world: China, USA, EU. Neutral countries will move as much as possible towards the EU as their preferred partner because both China and the USA treat other countries disrespectfully and try to extort them. Europe will be the only great power and market to turn to if you want to have an equal and fair relationship. Canada is already moving towards Europe for this exact reason. India and Japan will also form a closer relationship with Europe. This is what soft power means. MAGA replies in the comment section will prove the point.
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@cristishady @rssndr @Tim_AveEuropa Also, when was the last time China or Iran threatened EU country with invasion and annexation and claimed sovereign territory of EU country for itself?
With US it was probably this week, and after losing in Iran, they might want to do emotional support invasion to Greenland.
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@cristishady @rssndr @Tim_AveEuropa Iran and China are not direct threat to Europe or when was the last time EU country put their troops in combat alert because Iran and China was about to invade and annex their territory?
They are not our friends, but US is a lot more acute, direct threat. That's the world now.
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Why are Americans surprised by this and angry about it?
It is almost as if sabotaging the remnants of the unipolar world order, as well as constantly threatening and blackmailing your European allies, might negatively affect their willingness to trust and support the US.
Just Loki@LokiJulianus
If China invaded Taiwan, Europeans would say it wasn't their fight, shut down our overflights, and try to cut a deal with the PRC.
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@dahkelor @JariParantainen No siis jos sä laitat luottoa idoottiin dementoituneeseen lastenraiskaajan ja tämän jo nyt päin persettä menneeseen sotaan, koska siihen mentiin ilman mitään strategiaa, sä olet oikeasti ihan helvetin tyhmä enkä siis välitä olla tekemisissä noin tyhmien ihmisten kanssa.
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@ALemppu @JariParantainen Selvä. Palaan asiaan kohta kun homma on taputeltu ja hieron sen sitten naamaasi. Turha tästä on tässä kohtaa sen enempää jauhaa sillä olemme selkeästi hyvin eri linjoilla tulevasta lopputuloksesta.
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Trump uhkaa lopettaa asetoimitukset Ukrainaan, vaikka hän ei ole valintansa jälkeen toimittanut aseita Ukrainaan.
Ei tietenkään ole, koska hänen esimiehensä Moskovassa ei sitä sallisi.
Financial Times@FT
Trump threatened to stop weapons for Ukraine unless Europe joined Hormuz coalition ft.trib.al/W1wh66u
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@dahkelor @JariParantainen No ei yhtään erikoinen. Jotenkin erikoista olisi kuvitella että jenkit olisi jotenkin voitolla ja tietää mitä tekee, mikä saa sut näyttämään jo nyt kovin lyhytnäköiseltä ja suoraan sanottuna hieman tyhmältä.
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@ALemppu @JariParantainen Erikoinen näkemys tilanteesta, mutta palataan asiaan kun all is done and dusted. Veikkaan että kommenttisi näyttää silloin varsin lyhytnäköiseltä.
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@ALemppu @AnalyticaCamil1 Why is it not so easy? Politics.
The military is already prepared to do it. Trump wasn't want the domestic political backlash. His coalition is already wavering.
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Genuinely, what did folk like Alinejad expect would happen?
Surely, they understood that the Iranian government has a gargantuan and functioning bureaucracy, and that it wasn’t just a banana republic?
Do they understand that if there’s a land war, we’d almost invariably wind up slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Iranian soldiers and civilians?
Or do they earnestly believe that we could just parachute in Reza junior, and everything would be just hunky dory, and that everyone would come together and sing camp fire songs?
Acyn@Acyn
Alinejad: Why target infrastructure?
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@heikkihalme @JariParantainen Jep, ja sieltä olisi otettavissa keskeisiä oppeja miten sodankäynti on muuttunut ja nyt ratkaisee kustannustehokas volyymi, mutta Suomen johto lähtee edelleen siitä että ostetaan jenkeistä ja Israelista vähän mutta kalliilla.
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@ALemppu @JariParantainen Ja Ukraina yhtäkkiä onkin sodanjohdon eliittiä drooneineen. Sitä oppii kun on seinä edessä.
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Iivana Lemmetyinen | Lemmetöin Vana รีทวีตแล้ว
Note that if the operative standards in Washington were applied by Iran the US pilots would be tortured and killed. Maximum lethality not tepid legality, as the administration says
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@SuvyBob @AnalyticaCamil1 So why the strait of Hormuz is not open if it would be so easy?
I don't know about your track record but this interaction mostly shows you're stereotypical American in being full of themselves and not really caring how things work.
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@ALemppu @AnalyticaCamil1 My track record on this matter speaks for itself.
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@dahkelor @JariParantainen No eihän se pärjää kun joutuu ruinaamaan apua.
Semmosta se on kun on täysin kyvyttömät ääliöt johdossa.
Euroopan kykyjä kyllä parantaa kummasti ettei lähde jenkkien sekoiluihin mukaan.
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@ALemppu @JariParantainen Eihän kyse ole pärjäämisestä. Operaatio lienee tuottanut tuhoa 1000 kertaa enemmän viholliselle kun itselle on tullut, mutta kun vapaan maailman tyypit joutuvat miettimään myös näitä taloudellisia aspekteja.
Se taas ei Euroopan kykyjä tosin mitenkään paranna tositilanteessa.
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@SuvyBob @AnalyticaCamil1 It sure look like you're confusing self-esteem with competence.
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@ALemppu @AnalyticaCamil1 I probably have a better track record in this war than you do. Just an FYI.
Yes, I am American.
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Iivana Lemmetyinen | Lemmetöin Vana รีทวีตแล้ว
1. Yes I am obviously more upset by crimes committed by my own government over those done by foreign governments.
2. You were part of a military that killed 100,000 people and a record number of kids. I wasn’t.
3. I spoke out against the killings of Iranian protesters, even if I don’t necessarily accept your unverified numbers. You use their deaths as a prop to justify your illegal wars.
Yoni Michanie@YoniMichanie
You’re more upset now about a broken bridge than you were when the regime slaughtered 30,000 protestors. Let that sink in.
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@SuvyBob @AnalyticaCamil1 Sorry but you must be American, aren't you?
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@ALemppu @AnalyticaCamil1 Most Iranian leadership for the last couple centuries is Azeri or at least part Azeri. If he wants it (I don't think he does), it's not even clear he'd face resistance.
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@SuvyBob @AnalyticaCamil1 Ok, if it's so easy you should probably present your plan to the White House or Abu Dhabi or Riyadh and collect a hefty consulting fee.
The silly ones didn't realize how easy it would be.
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@ALemppu @AnalyticaCamil1 Yea dude, you don't need much to control Hormuz. It's a tiny piece of territory that's mostly flat. All you need to do is have enough territory so the Strait can't be mined and be able to put enough to blow up small boats. It's not hard.
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@SuvyBob @AnalyticaCamil1 Well there's a bunch of rogue actors in Washington which makes diplomacy with them pointless, because they have shown time and time again to not honor any deals nor negotiations.
However, apparently the strait is open for those who deal peacefully with Iran.
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@ALemppu @AnalyticaCamil1 If there is no chain of command, then diplomacy is effectively pointless. That forces action eventually if you have a bunch of rogue actors in charge.
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@SuvyBob @AnalyticaCamil1 Aliyev's road to Terhan ain't open nor flat, stop being so out of touch what comes to reality.
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@ALemppu @AnalyticaCamil1 Aliyev has an open road to Tehran. That's not a regime that's doing a great job holding itself together.
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@SuvyBob @AnalyticaCamil1 Doesn't look that flat.
I didn't say Iran is unconquerable but those who have succeeded in that have been way more competent that idiotic demented child rapist and his court of drunks and buffoons.
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@ALemppu @AnalyticaCamil1 The north side of Hormuz is flat. It's a tiny piece of area.
The idea Iran is this unconquerable place is a myth. The British Empire ran through the entire place very quickly in 1941. Taking Hormuz is a cakewalk compared to that.
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@SuvyBob @AnalyticaCamil1 It sure looks like built for it, because decapitation obviously didn't work and Iran is still firing missiles and drones daily.
I would not count on army taking the country over IRGC which is calling the shots at the moment.
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@ALemppu @AnalyticaCamil1 It's not built for resilience. In 10 years, there is going to be a secular nationalist dictator in charge. If someone can unite the army, they can take over the entire country right now.
I predicted and opposed the Iran War, but the regime is desperate and not holding up 10 yrs.
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