@VGS_1919 @Normaluser2023 @higureshuuen Does it really bother you that much to admit you pirate just as much as everyone else, lol?
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evil not
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@Not__Evil @Normaluser2023 @higureshuuen なんで態々、世界の反対側に設定する必要があるの？ｗｗｗ
同じアジア圏内なら早いでしょｗ
なんでそんな考え方が極端なんだ？ｗ
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@VGS_1919 @Normaluser2023 @higureshuuen You're right, I'm going to set up my VPN on the other side of the world so I can download in five hours what I'd normally get in five minutes
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@Normaluser2023 @higureshuuen VPNを使用せずに違法アップロードサイトを使う馬鹿がどこに居るんだｗ
日本人ならVPNで別の国に偽装するだろ普通ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
なんでそこまで考えられんかねｗ
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@RealityTeiji Secondly, given the piracy going on over there (lol), things are actually going quite well for businesses in a country where people enjoy free pirated versions 🤡
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@RealityTeiji You’re comparing theft, the removal of a physical object, or the destruction of a physical object – which, by definition, is in limited supply.
A game doesn’t fall into that category; that’s simply my point – the comparison doesn’t hold up.
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頼むから海外リスナー全員RTしたものを読んでくれよ…という気持ち
日本もクソ高い関税のせいでチーズ激高いけど、だからって民衆が徒党を組んでチーズ工場に押し入り強盗した挙句に「日本で買うと高いんです！私たちは気候上チーズの生成が大変なんです！」なんて喚かないんですよ
日本語
2000年代のオタクは「地元じゃ放映してないんだからしょうがないだろ」とか言ってアニメを違法視聴してたし、割れエロゲープレイしまくってたし、「購入厨」なんて言葉すらあったしで、南米の連中と遵法精神大して変わらん
Nero@neroopinion
海賊版が話題だけど、野獣先輩というあらゆる権利侵害を詰め込んだコンテンツがオタク文化になってる国の人間が、よくサ終したサービスを独自に動かしてるだけの外国人を偉そうに叩けるよね。 日本のオタク文化だって海賊版で栄えたのに、なんで外国人にはあんな杓子定規に権利を主張できるのだろう。
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@magozone23 Hey, you talk a lot, but you haven't answered that yet, have you?
You're really full of it, aren't you, when you're doing exactly the same thing, you hypocrite
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@Yusuke_Takigawa When Fakku removes part of its catalogue because Visa has decided I’m not allowed to have your stuff...
When the translations are botched and the fans do a better job.
When the title isn’t available for some obscure reason.
So what are we supposed to do?
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@Yusuke_Takigawa Most of us just want to buy our stuff in peace without being treated like idiots.
When I pay for a Japanese game on Steam, and half of it gets removed because it’s ‘inappropriate lol’, they can go and shove it – and I can see why people pirate games.
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@kyuusyuha_001 Because they’re afraid of a ghost that does them absolutely no harm, and which hurts consumers more than anything else.
One of the world’s best-selling games is also the most pirated 🤷
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@azusa_maxima You big liars, lads, you do realise that our 'pirated' translations come from you lot, don't you?
When something isn't available here, you know it doesn't just appear out of thin air, do you?
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欲しいものが手に入らなかった時日本のオタクが何をしたかわかるか？
自 分 で 作 る ん だ よ
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@Mashiro_yuh @Svide0 We tolerate it because piracy has always existed in the West, and we realised long ago that trying to combat it is not only pointless but, in most cases, completely counterproductive.
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@magozone23 Well, don’t come crying to us, because in the countries where you don’t sell your stuff, people pirate it.
You neither make nor lose any money in the process
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@ovoghost @Casey_A_Ward @magozone23 I think it's quite possible to get to the end even with the pirated version; you don't need an internet connection to finish the game.
As far as I remember, the pirated version didn't connect to the internet, so the bodies on the ground and so on didn't work either.
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権利者の受けられるはずだった利益を侵害してますわ
アウトです、どう言い繕おうが
例えば海賊版で楽しんだヤツってのは、日本企業に本来の代金に近しい金額を寄付したりしてますの？
無料で勝手に楽しんでるんでしょ？
それは恥ずべき事、盗っ人側だけが利益享受して企業や作者には一切プラスがない
Qotsu Sadon@Qoruan
@magozone23 I will disagree with you on this one. If something can't be bought than using it is not stealing. Digital content doesn't work like physical one, when it copied no one is losing anything unless there's profit to be made, but when restrictions in place, there's no profit to begin.
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@nonuple9 @IreIreIredium A perfect example: Koikatsu.
I bought it out of respect, but what do we get in the West? An ultra-limited version – half the game is missing, so you have to pirate it to get the full experience.
How can you sell that? And it’s not an isolated case.
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@IreIreIredium ●日本は昔からその「挑発」を多数受けており、「おま国」という言葉もあるほど
●Steamで各国語翻訳済みのタイトルで、販売数の数倍の海賊版があることが明らかになっている。つまり入手の困難さは海賊版の主な理由ではない
●発売３日前のタイトルが「保存」を名目に海賊行為される例がある
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海外ニキに質問なんだけど、日本のゲームの冒頭に、
「我々は企業に搾取されていません。ゲームの権利は私たちが持っており、皆さんが払ったお金は我々に還元されます。また、たとえ作品の宣伝になるとしても、海賊版により拡散されることは拒絶します」
という断り書きがあったらどう思います？
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@okotatsudoragon @UNOwenWasFaer On the other hand, looking at it the other way round, there are quite a few benefits: word of mouth. Potential merchandise buyers, people to buy the sequels, a bigger community (and therefore credibility).
The reality is more nuanced
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@okotatsudoragon @UNOwenWasFaer And by ‘non-issues’, I mean that no studies have actually proven that piracy harms studio – quite the opposite, in fact.
For the simple reason that a pirate, even if you block them, isn’t going to buy your stuff
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海賊版は、中古品と比べるまでもなく最初に買われた時の利益も産まないのだけどな。クリエイターの利益には、金銭的な収入だけでなく、勝手に作品を複製されない権利のことも日本の著作権法では含まれる。
Amber 🧡@h0pearcana
japanese twitter users will tell you that you can’t play a game if the original creators won’t profit from it, and then they’ll go to hard-off
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