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@ZaynesMitralVal @ecutruin This is nonsense.

@ecutruin If i was disregarding why am i still replying. And if you want to not bother with my posts, stop replying. Anyways, the way ai uses creatives' art cannot be counted under fair use. Styles cannot be stolen, yes, but If they're the heart of an art piece (see: Ghibli

I'll go each of these points... 1. The water consumption is largely overblown. For example: blog.andymasley.com/p/the-ai-water…

@ZaynesMitralVal @ecutruin No, artists do not have the right to limit Fair Use. That's the whole point. Fair Use doesn't need a permission slip. If it did, it wouldn't serve the purpose it does.

@ecutruin Artists have to have the right to control where and how their art gets used. Humans learning and giving credit cannot be the same as a machine regurgitating slop. juliabausenhardt.com/how-ai-is-stea…

@ecutruin @ZaynesMitralVal I think it's pretty clear at this point that they haven't read anything about AI beyond the insane headlines of clickbait journalists and the ramblings of anti-AI zealots.

@ZaynesMitralVal Did you read this study? It only have 54 participants, and only 18 of them actually completed the full study. This is not a representative sample size at all. Furthermore, it only found that you can be less engaged when using AI tools, not that they actually decrease intellect.

@ZaynesMitralVal @ecutruin Styles aren't protected by copyright in the first place. They really have no bearing on Fair Use guidelines, nor do the opinions of the author.

@ecutruin Just because a judge ruled it as so doesn't mean it is. An AI stealing art (specifically art styles. See: Ghibli trend a while back) is not how you use fair use, especially when Miyazaki himself is against AI. (To quote a specific example on how artists feel about ai) +

@Hurricanehugo13 @ExistentialEnso What does this even mean? Your choice of words is directly tied to the result with diffusion models. That's literally a core aspect of how they function.

@ExistentialEnso I mean it's a farce on it's face that a supposed "natural language system" can't even use the vocabulary of art and creativity to refine it's generation, it doesn't care what vocabulary you use but keep telling me this is the future of creativity

If you don't want to use AI, cool, whatever, I wish you well! That's your choice. if you don't want *other* people to use AI, now we have a problem.

@kacyfaevt Riiight. You'll die on the hill that Generative AI is bad until Neuro comes up, then it's all willful ignorance and justifications. Proving it was all performative nonsense all along.

Seems I’ve made the pro-ai users mad. Good. I’ll die on that hill that generative AI is bad.

@AstellarDiabell @xxBunnyDollzxx Nice. Yeah, the amount of misinformation around Neuro is insane. And almost all of it is solely for the purpose of justifying liking her, even though she is the very generative AI these guys scream endlessly about. All the same ethical concerns apply

@Raen4657 @xxBunnyDollzxx Yeah youtube.com/watch?v=r-EFB4…

As a voice actor and vtuber/streamer I get asked how I feel about Neuro-Sama due to her being an AI. So I will finally say this: The reason why AI is so detrimental to the arts community is its lack of soul. There is a clear intention behind the wave of AI, and that’s manufacturing efficiency and capitalism, the antithesis of what art was made for. It’s hollow and doesn’t seek to create in an effort to speak humanity in their current era, it seeks to profit. Neuro-sama is not this! Neuro-sama was a passion project by Vedal, one man (turtle) to create something the genre hasn’t seen before. She wasn’t made to replace streamers, or make a quick buck. There is SO much behind the scene work that goes into her, with all ethical practices to allow more creatives like artists and fellow vtubers to contribute and flourish. She’s an amazing display of why humans are a vital part to creation, all while being an AI herself. I think seeing the word AI in any context has scared people, but AI has been in our pockets since 2010 by the name of “ Siri”. It’s all about the why and how AI is used that’s important. I think Neuro is incredible and I can safely say I’m a big fan of what she and vedal have achieved!

@Teru_Sodo @viridi_voce @Aksium @BigPapaLemonTTV And you definitely did minimize creative writing. "Any monkey with a typewriter can write a book", but art is personal. As if writing isn't personal or stylized.

@Teru_Sodo @viridi_voce @Aksium @BigPapaLemonTTV Just like AI can learn from art, it can also learn from educational diagrams and nature pics. It doesn't change the reality of what they are trained on though. In the end, you seem to just be allowing for one because you enjoy it, while calling the same thing theft in other cases

Vtubers should not use AI, period. Artists are backbone of all Vtubers, with their art you wouldn’t be here. Be grateful, respect your artists.

@AstellarDiabell @xxBunnyDollzxx Yeah I've been seeing this voice actress myth a lot recently. Maybe it has something to do with her singing ability specifically? Because I'm with you, last I knew her voice was from Azure, which would be trained on voices without consent which is theft in the anti-AI types world

@xxBunnyDollzxx @MyuVT Neuro's voice is from azure ai from microsoft, he didn't hire anyone. Where are you getting this fanfic from?

@VShadeon @sandstoneartz Vtubing/streaming isn't a creative field?

@sandstoneartz @MyuVT I agree. AI has its place and use but not in the creative fields

@sandstoneartz Neuro *is* generative AI. An LLM at her core. Trained on all the same data you call stolen. And she is a pretty clear example of AI in a creative field so idk what you're even trying to say. vedal.ai/advice/#:~:tex…

@MyuVT I think she rocks. I also support AI in medical and technology fields. I have an issue with generative AI. Bc it steals and copies others. Ai doesn't belong in creative fields it should bc used to better humanity not attempt to replace it

@Teru_Sodo @viridi_voce @Aksium @BigPapaLemonTTV The fact that you think so little of creative writing is wild though.

@Teru_Sodo @viridi_voce @Aksium @BigPapaLemonTTV They are both the same. Deep learning models trained to learn patterns. Those patterns are then used to create novel works, whether it's text or images. If you consider one an amalgamation (which is wrong), then so is the other.

@viridi_voce @Teru_Sodo @Aksium @BigPapaLemonTTV They're both memetic. Expression through and through. And largely treated the same under copyright for good reason. I find this minimization of written works and their authors super strange.

@Teru_Sodo @Raen4657 @Aksium @BigPapaLemonTTV idk art is memetic and copied and stolen naturally. everything outside of that is law and copyright systems basically, not expression, now emulated thru AI.

@Teru_Sodo @viridi_voce @Aksium @BigPapaLemonTTV Both language models and diffusion models are trained on copyrighted data without consent. Allowing for one and calling the other theft is just hypocritical.

@Teru_Sodo @viridi_voce @Aksium @BigPapaLemonTTV "Training an AI on books and code is not a bad think, it's just words" Replace that with images and pixels, and that's your logic.

@Teru_Sodo @viridi_voce @Aksium @BigPapaLemonTTV Her base LLM isn't magic. It was trained on the same data as any other. This includes everything from books to code, and if you think that training without consent is theft, Neuro is no different.

@viridi_voce @Aksium @BigPapaLemonTTV Maybe, but Neuro does have the "Steal from others" part, so yes, she gets the pass

@hopesandspirits Well... Neuro and Evil *are* the type of AI those people are crying about though. Generative. LLMs at their core. Just like ChatGPT. Before OpenAI released GPT, Neuro was just a basic neural network trained to be an Osu Bot. Very different than she is now. vedal.ai/advice/#:~:tex…

neuro twins are a good litmus test to expose midwits. midwits mald at the word "AI" because they believe all AI is the same (even the ones used in video games years before OpenAI)

@benjaminJ320 @kacyfaevt You know what else is free?😏

@kacyfaevt "but 20 is still too much" There are free to use assets, like piccrews

“I use generative AI because I’m too broke to afford art” But there’s literally thousands of artists EVERYWHERE that can do amazing art for under $20… even less if they are just starting out doing commissions. Just because you’re too lazy to save up the money to pay a real artist doesn’t mean you can justify using AI for art. Simple as that. 🤷‍♀️