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@nazariol20 @FranHee7 Y'all can't play the 'we are just a 3rd world country that needs to pirate every game!' and the 'what about the console's?' card at the same time. And the cheapest of laptops can handle DR anyway.

@Rashanoth @FranHee7 Console players

Gringos are incredible, you'd think they'd be able to see that behind the idiots harassing Toby Fox there's a genuine request for an accessibility option, but no, they're going to show their total lack of empathy and understanding by dismissing the situation.

@i4kugisaki @NINtendo_maya And no it's the same, both americans and your sorry asses are crying about localization as if you NEED it in your life. You aren't owed art dumbass. If you want to engage in it so much go learn english, or just use fan translations.

@i4kugisaki @NINtendo_maya It became a part of the argument when I compared you to americans crying about not getting games localized in their language? The 'expect special catering for your wants just like the white americans you are criticizing' part to be exact.

Do the people getting upset at toby fox know they can just make fan translation mods

@i4kugisaki @NINtendo_maya So when you ask for localization its for accessibility but if americans ask Japanese Vn's to be localized they are something else? Loool. If his games are so easy to translate and you are only asking it for accessibility you can always play a fan translation and it would be fine.

@Rashanoth @NINtendo_maya telling this to an artist isn’t the “gotcha” you think it is nor is saying people asking for accessibility are like white americans. that a stupid bitchass comparison, LMAO. toby fox isn’t shakespeare, acting like his game would totally lose meaning with translation is bullshit.

@i4kugisaki @NINtendo_maya Not even remotely what I said but its okay. I know your consumer ass has no respect for art and just wants to consume stuff without thinking about it. Continue to play the victim and expect special catering for your wants just like the white americans you are criticizing.

@Rashanoth @NINtendo_maya this is like saying you should struggle to have fun. shut your bitch ass up. 😭

@shuuentouhikouu @RenatoMadguy The merch situation is kinda fucked up yeah, dunno if its fucked up as what minorities go through.

@Rashanoth @RenatoMadguy

I am legit so disheartened by how a community full of queer people is asking another minority to shut up and accept their situation

@bgone_b @RenatoMadguy The fan translations are not enough for accessibility because? And the post was not pointing out xenophobia in the slightest. It was calling out how the queers are not supporting the Latam people while insinuating their situation are similar when it is not similar in slightest.

@Rashanoth @RenatoMadguy Its about accessibility. And its not stupid to point out how many americans are being xenophobic to ppl who just want to be treated equally in the fandom

@boanoitegabe @RenatoMadguy When the claim is deep enough to have multiple opinions be right about it and has little to do with latam people being minorities, queers don't owe you any sympathy. Again, the discussion has very little if anything to do with minorities. Why bring them up?

@Rashanoth @RenatoMadguy A minority group that is used to having their claims dismissed should be more thoughtful before dismissing the claims of another minority group. Who is "abused the most" is not the point, it's not a suffering competition.

@bgone_b @RenatoMadguy I'm not a victim in any way, but bringing up minorities in a discussion about art being localized is very very stupid and tone deaf. It doesn't have anything to do with ignorant beliefs or whatever you want to make it about.

@Rashanoth @RenatoMadguy He didnt insinuate that but go on gringo, talk about being a victim while having ignorant beliefs towards others

@_B00M_01 @RenatoMadguy Bringing up the people demonizing the Latam people is also meaningless when I can also point out Latam people demonizing Toby. There are dumbasess at both sides of this conversation. I still don't understand why minorities had to be brought up.

@_B00M_01 @RenatoMadguy work very closely but that's just your opinion. And that's why I said you can have two different opinions that would be correct or false in a discussion like this. You can hold that opinion but nobody has to agree with you, there's no right or wrong in this discussion.

@_B00M_01 @RenatoMadguy The discussion about empathy makes no sense when the core of the issue is about how Toby sees art and DR, you can have a different opinion about this topic and neither opinions could be right so its normal not everyone agrees with you. Minorities have no place in this discussion.

@Rashanoth @RenatoMadguy I mean...Do you think that's what OP meant with their tweet? I think they're talking about how disappointed it is for a marginalized group to turn around and have little empathy for another when it's an issue that doesn't affect them personally

@boanoitegabe @RenatoMadguy What's it comparing then? The language used in the original tweet is trying to make it sound like the issue is as big as what minorities in real life are going through no? Bringing up minorities in this discussion is stupid no way you look at it anyway.

@Rashanoth @RenatoMadguy he did not insinuate that those are the same... did you read?

@_B00M_01 @RenatoMadguy Oh was the original tweet talking about a new law that harmed Latam people then? And when did I even say Latam people didn't suffer from systemic abuse? The tweet is comparing the hardships queer people go against to Deltarune not getting translated and thats kinda dumb

@Rashanoth @RenatoMadguy Latin Americans are known for not being subject to systemic abuse and definitely don't have laws against them. You're so smart!

@_Eito_Blehh Wait you're telling me he didn't speak like a caveman in JP version?

Due to bad translation gonta was condemned to caveman speak forever. Poor fuck

@S1mil0r @bunketyjunkety @BlurryIsMe_ @SpacedOutTracey You completely changed your goalposts, now its about how good a translation is when moments ago it was about 'fans not being able to read the game'. If you don't wanna understand his intent on why he doesn't want it localized you can stay that way.

@Rashanoth @bunketyjunkety @BlurryIsMe_ @SpacedOutTracey The point of an official translation is to be less shit than doing it yourself. Would you rather read Art of War translated by Sun Tzu, or read Art of War except every sentence sounds awful?

I’m ngl I think he really just needs to ease up on this Like dude the translators JOB is to display your vision in the language like you don’t trust them even a *little* bit?? I get Deltarune as it’s in active development, but undertale shouldve had more translations AWHILE ago

@S1mil0r @bunketyjunkety @BlurryIsMe_ @SpacedOutTracey If your only want is the game being rougly translated then the fan translations are enough. And if a fan can't read his dialogue how could they become a fan in the first place?

@Rashanoth @bunketyjunkety @BlurryIsMe_ @SpacedOutTracey Shakespeare gets translated and keeps its intricacies, him walking through what he”s trying to convey to a translator and getting “it translates roughly to ()” would work fine, he’s being picky over small things compared to FANBASE THAT CAN’T READ HIS DIALOGUE LANGUAGE

@i4kugisaki @NINtendo_maya If the art was not meant to be enjoyed by all, but you still want to enjoy it nonetheless then yeah you should struggle to be able to enjoy that piece of art. If you care so much about art maybe struggle and experience it how the creator meant it to be experienced.

@NINtendo_maya so certain countries should just “do things themselves”? they should struggle to enjoy art? 😭