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@WhyHurtLegion @DanielvsBabylon Let’s recap: You said ‘allowing evil = being evil.’ I gave counterexamples. You called names. Your AI analogy proved free will. You flipped to insults. Now ‘you are talking about yourself’? That’s kindergarten. You lost three moves ago. I’m done

@adestonunc @DanielvsBabylon You are talking about yourself

Yes in fact it does This isn’t rocket science If you created it you are responsible I agree evil is a mechanism for good however that would mean it doesn’t really exists You aren’t arguing against me The problem persists for thousands and thousands of years There is no assumption here, only observations. The real assumptions are made by you thinking a book written in words and translated hundred of times can give you a clear understanding of something that we cannot understand by humans-at least in your context

@WhyHurtLegion @DanielvsBabylon You started coherent, then folded into emotional tantrums. You confuse ‘example’ with ‘analogy,’ permission with causation, free will with slavery, basic stuff. Now you whine like a scared little girl. Intellectually inferior. I’m no longer engaging

@WhyHurtLegion @DanielvsBabylon You don’t understand ‘example’ vs ‘analogy.’ Heaven’s free will isn’t slavery, that’s just your bitterness talking. You flipped to insults when logic failed. I never claimed faith, you projected. No longer engaging, you’re a child who resorted to personal insults and flawed logic

@WhyHurtLegion @DanielvsBabylon You flipped to insults because logic failed you. Insults = concession. I never said I believe in God , you assumed. Your AI analogy proves free will, not creator guilt. You checkmated yourself. Try logic next time.

Yes it does If AI takes over the world and kills humans would it not be elons or others fault for creating it in the first place? You are delusional ass kissers of a fairy tale god who clearly doesn’t care about you Only narcissistically proving his right to rule to an adversary he created himself

@WhyHurtLegion @DanielvsBabylon Also, I just have to say, thank you for a genuinely interesting and stimulating conversation with logic, a refreshing change

@WhyHurtLegion @DanielvsBabylon Creating the possibility of evil ≠ creating evil. Parents create children with free will , not evil. God permits evil for greater good, not evil. Your ‘diseased root’ is just your own assumption dressed as logic. No uprooting needed , just some basic distinctions.

Satan is a dog on a leash and can’t do anything the Sovereign Lord doesn’t allow him to, that goes for all fallen, rebellious angels.

@WhyHurtLegion @DanielvsBabylon False analogy. A homeowner has no obligation to permit murder. But if God grants free will for a greater good (love, moral growth), allowing temporary evil isn’t the same as committing it. You’re smuggling in ‘allowing = approving = doing.’ That’s the real delusion.

@adestonunc @DanielvsBabylon By this logic you would allow someone to murder someone else in your house and consider yourself not apart of it Delusional

@WhyHurtLegion @DanielvsBabylon Allowing evil doesn’t make you evil (judges allow trials without being criminals). Evil can be real, permitted for a greater good, yet not all-powerful. Your ‘either all-encompassing or doesn’t exist’ is a false dilemma. No checkmate , just bad logic

@adestonunc @DanielvsBabylon No it’s a logical argument you cannot beat Chess is logical It’s a checkmate unless you bring in fairy tales

@WhyHurtLegion @DanielvsBabylon Not a checkmate at all, just uninformed

Let’s expand this If evil can only do things under the control of Jesus Then evil is a mechanism for Jesus If Jesus allows evil then he himself is evil Or evil is not real and only a facet of Jesus’ power So in other words you are saying absolutely nothing Either evil is all encompassing or does not exist in this theory Checkmate dumb ass

@NickHintonn Why do you only post fringe conspiracies that verify to the world that you haven’t got the slightest clue what you’re talking about

Lucifer’s Emerald is also where the legend of the Holy Grail came from. The Holy Grail was a stone carved cup that caught the blood of Christ during the Crucifixion. Whoever possessed it would become immortal. This is obviously nonsense. But that didn’t stop the Knights Templar!

@KE_MrBlack Maybe because they’re Hebrew names?🤣🤣🤣

How the hell did Jesus find people called Mathew,James,Luke and John in middle East?😂

@NickHintonn You previously claimed it was Talmudic, can you make your mind up?

Jewish Kabbalists believe Enoch transformed into an angel so powerful, they sometimes confuse him for God. They even ask if he somehow created the world on God’s behalf? They say there’s actually two powers in heaven!Why do they love him so much?

@NickHintonn Can you please research and study topics before posting???? You’re genuinely a poster boy for fringe conspiracies and misinformation

Enoch now rules over the evil part of the tree of knowledge… since God can’t intermingle with evil of course. I guess that’s reasonable! But if I didn’t know any better, I’d say it sounds like the Jews favorite angel is actually Lucifer!

@NickHintonn You should really research and study topics before posting. Never have I ever seen someone with so many followers who posts fringe nonsense.

They want ppl to believe the Book of Enoch is true so they can steer them towards Gnosticism. Some Gnostics believe Enoch was actually Hermes Trismegistus, the first alchemist. They also believe Enoch and Hermes used alchemy to evolve into angels. They’re trying to do this too!

@innercirclemorp So instead of giving shit to Romeo you’re now just “morphing” into him , cool.

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@NickHintonn That’s from 3rd Enoch not the talmud

Talmudic Jews believe Enoch was taken into heaven and transformed into a god, a “lesser Yahweh” called Metatron. He is also called the Chief Archangel and the Prince of the World. In Kabbala, he holds the highest rank in heaven! He is the keeper of cosmic secrets. Weird!

@DanielvsBabylon So you’ve clearly not read the Bible then, Peter and Jude’s epistle refer to 1st enoch, and Paul plagiarised it with his description of the heavens. It was also taken seriously by the Essenes and the Ethiopian church

The Book of Enoch thing is just the latest lame attempt to cause even more division between Catholics and Protestants. "Rome removed these books they can't be trusted!" But its a false narrative. Enoch was never removed because no one ever considered it Scripture.

@WesleyLHuff Considering that both Jude and Peter refer 1st Enoch in their epistles, and Paul essentially plagiarised his descriptions of the heavens from Enoch, coupled with it being found amongst Qumran scroll. Don’t think it’s fair to put it in the same category as other apocryphal texts

The pseudepigraphal literature, including 1st Enoch (typically what we refer to as “the Book of Enoch” — there are 3 but the 1st on is the famous one), operated within a fundamentally different literary framework than modern historical narrative. 1st Enoch is a pseudepigraphal, apocalyptic collection of narratives and visions ascribed to Enoch. This was a genre that deliberately attributed writings to ancient figures to claim authority rather than to deceive readers about authorship. Understanding the genre’s intention requires recognizing its theological purpose. As a collection, 1 Enoch offers a glimpse of what was likely a common worldview during the later 2nd Temple period (1st Enoch almost certainly doesn’t predate this time), which identified the world as an evil and unjust place in which the Jewish people awaited the redemption of God in their eschatological world. The primary message was the soon-coming divine retribution of enemies and the judgment and eradication of evil that permeated the cosmos, with the author’s truth and authority relying on his heavenly journeys during which God gave him divine revelation of the coming redemption of the righteous. Rather than presenting factual history, pseudepigraphal works employed symbolic and visionary language to convey theological truths about divine judgment and redemption. Topics like angels, demons, the spiritual realm, and the coming Messiah are all being fleshed out by this type of work. 1st Enoch offers an embellished textual tradition of Gen.6, and the pseudepigraphal accounts parallel the Septuagintal tradition, reflecting the interpretative biases of the period. This interpretative expansion, albeit not literal reporting, was the genre’s defining characteristic. The New Testament’s engagement with 1 Enoch further illustrates this point: Jude draws from the pseudepigraphal book of 1 Enoch, with Jude 14-16 detailing a “prophecy” made by Enoch regarding judgment on sinners and the ungodly, drawing on 1 Enoch 9:1, Jude cites Enoch not as historical documentation but as authoritative theological witness to eschatological judgment. The pseudepigraphal genre was never intended as literal history; it was visionary theology dressed in ancient authority. The question remains, if we take Enoch seriously as actual history then why not the myriads of other pieces of ancient Jewish a Pseudopigrapha, a vast literary catalogue: the Apocalypse of Abraham, Apocalypse of Adam, Apocalypse of Daniel, Apocalypse of Elijah, Apocalypse of Zephaniah, and multiple versions of Baruch (2, 3, and 4 Baruch) and Ezra texts (including the Greek Apocalypse of Ezra, Questions of Ezra, Revelation of Ezra, and Vision of Ezra)? The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs represent a major collection, along with individual testaments attributed to Moses, Job, Solomon, Adam, and the Three Patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob), why not toss them in as well? All the same genre and vein that Enoch finds itself in. The collection extends to works attributed to David (More Psalms of David), Jeremiah, Isaiah (including the Vision of Isaiah), Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Zechariah, and multiple works attributed to Solomon, including the Psalms of Solomon and Testament of Solomon. The Sibylline Oracles, Eldad and Modad, and the Book of Jubilees also claim ancient authorship. Some of these documents in their earliest iterations are as early as the 3rd century BC (through others the 4th or 5th centuries AD). Sure, read 1st Enoch. But don’t confuse it for something it isn’t.

@THEORTHOCHAT @noetic_healing Paul essentially plagiarised it in his description of the heavens, both Peter and Jude’s epistles also refer to Enoch, and it was previously included in the canon. It shouldn’t be ignored / tossed aside

@noetic_healing the book of enoch is not divinely inspired scripture

For my Orthodox friends: He’s right. Angels don’t even have physical bodies let alone reproductive organs. Stop falling for myths.