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The most important thing Valve is doing has nothing to do with hardware. Proliferation of Steam OS as a replacement for Windows is the most influential thing along with the development of all their compatibility and translation layers like Proton and Kex.

@Dexerto But people on Twitter who have no understanding of computers told me nobody wanted it.

The Steam Machine sold out in Japan just three hours after it went on sale

@JackSam30767610 @Niflheimm155983 There are a million options for ATX builds. People who want a 40-pound, 1200w space heater PC aren't the target audience for this.

@Niflheimm155983 Why are people acting like form factor is such a big deal. Mid towers aren't even that big or heavy.

As one of probably very few people who have actually built a Steam Machine sized PC before, I can confirm this is true and also that it’s really hard You need to find a single fan GPU, which severely limits your choices and is usually expensive and hard to find, and then it’s nerve wracking to have to cram all your expensive components inside such a small case. I spent around the same as a 2tb steam machine + controller bundle when I was a college student for my Velka 3 build, which was also kind of loud btw Pic isn’t mine, just so you can see how small that case is

@FatalPhantom399 @DmarcusBaus Every console game can be a PC game, but not every PC game can be a console game.

@DmarcusBaus "Exclusive titles" But i thought PCMR are against exclusives ? Oh thats right they are only against console exclusives not when it comes to their own

@gxfito @tsukideko Do you know anyone who's experienced burn in on OLED?

@tsukideko they look cool too but the burn in tho

i dream to have an oled monitor but they are so damn expensive

I'm telling you guys.

There's going to come a point where AI is "solved" and we're going to look back at data centers the same way we look at abandoned asylums with lead paint.

@fluteflies @GSloth79 Dudes with AI generated profile pictures complaining about hardware prices 🥀🥀

@GSloth79 @getrootarded Ai has driven prices through the roof, if you are fine with using your ai then you can deal with these consequences

I'm almost exclusively seeing bad faith arguments against the Steam Machine. This is essentially being sold at production cost plus a $70-90 service fee for convenience of efficiency, form factor and acoustics. It's not an attractive price, but it's a realistic one.

@AverageG4merYT I get what you're saying and it's cool that you're motivated to support the changes that you want to see in the industry, even at a higher cost.

I am buying the steam machine. No its not worth its cost BUT the cost came from a memory shortage caused by MS & Nvidia. By not buying the Steam Machine we are supporting the companies that pushed it to fail.

@rezlov__ Both are the target consumer. Owners of high performing PCs know how heavy they are, how noisy they can be and how hot they make the room they're in. We've done RMA processes. We've lived with Bluetooth connection and driver compatibility issues.

Valve regularly does a Steam hardware survey of their playerbase. Do you really think they made this console for people with a $3k PC? Why would they sell PCs to PC players? This is a build that will let a regular joe relax and play most games from the comfort of their couch.

@_donerkebab__ Form factor really is important for what this aims to achieve.

It's funny, when providing reasons to get a pre-built PC that outperforms this device by a margin for a similar - or lower price, the arguments for the Steam Machine get as dumb as it gets. - "but formfactor?" - "but cec?" AS IF ANYONE CARED ABOUT THOSE

@GSloth79 @fluteflies The future is Android. We're going to be daijoubu.

@fluteflies @getrootarded If that price is realistic then gaming is going to die. If thats the future I want no part of that future.

@charlieINTEL People are gonna spend $1050 for a PS5 Pro and one game.

Grand Theft Auto VI locks several stores, including tattoo shops, mod shops, and custom vehicles, behind the $100 Ultimate Edition

@airy_co If it came with Windows preinstalled, tons of people who have never heard of Steam would buy it for home and office use without a second thought.

i hope they don't flinch, steam machine and deck are more than consoles, they run a fully fledged linux OS that allows you to get work done i know they target a very niche audience, but it's such a powerful concept that i hope it goes mainstream

@DannyzReviews I've got 5 controllers, 3 mouses and 2 keyboards.

Valve defenders be like: Its for my living roooommm, I want couchhh gaminggg Then be like : nah it's a pc, it doesn't need the controller..... Which is it guys?????

@TaroTheCerelean You're going to be happy with it, bro.

Now that I've had some time to think about it, I think I'll still be buying it. A few things make this worth it for me: - My first gaming PC - Small form factor - Just like with the Steam deck, the Steam Machine will have games specifically optimized for it because of Steam OS - Can still be used as a PC - From the little research I've done, it's simply not feasible to build something like this on my own without losing aspects like the form factor and optimization. - Even though I've never owned a gaming PC or any Valve Hardware, I respect what they're doing and the ecosystem looks attractive to me. - I do wish that it was cheaper but we have AI to thank for that *sigh* I do NOT want a humongous gaming PC tower. And I don't want to have to sift through files every time I want to do something. So, to me, it's worth it. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@FumeGaming95 @K__Med Based.

@K__Med Yep and I will be buying the moment it’s available for me

With the Steam Machine now priced north of $1,000, are you still considering one? Were you ever? What would you actually use it for?

@devilsaviour_ I built something like that and put it in my living room. I got rid of it because it was big and ugly.

i think the idea behind the steam machine is really good, making PC gaming into a "console" like how the steam deck was making PC gaming into a handheld like the PS Vita and DS but literally what's the point when it costs the same as a more than good enough PC

@Leezelbub @outonparole It's an anti-consumer standard. Subsidized costs in computing come from advertisements for things like Copilot, OneDrive and iCloud. It's the preinstalled OEM bloatware from HP, Dell and Lenovo. The Samsung and Google applications that can't be uninstalled without rooting.

@outonparole @getrootarded Because it’s standard in the market

@mccalejk Have fun!

@getrootarded This is false. You can build a much better pc at this price point.