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@Sheik_elizzy @JStagr @Kryptotajeer @freemonotheist Nope, again, the title is metaphorically. You keep equivocating on what is meant by "Father" as you imply ontological meaning. In relation to the strictly Islamic abiding context, we can use Father. But it is makruh or even haram due to the association with Idols. Stop forcing it

@tree777_6 @JStagr @Kryptotajeer @freemonotheist Stop this gibberish. “We don’t use it anymore as it was anymore as it was associated with idolatry.” “There was a time Allah was a father then he stopped being a father.” But Allah is still a father in a metaphorical sense without it being idolatry. Allah will be so proud

Paul Williams explained the actual meaning of the biblical use of the term “Father” We Muslims have no problem with the term “Father” as long as its actual Jewish understanding is not distorted. @freemonotheist

@Sheik_elizzy @JStagr @Kryptotajeer @freemonotheist We do not use it but if it is strictly metaphorical and aligns with what the Quran teaches (about God) then sure. We don't use it anymore as it was associated with idolatry.

@tree777_6 @JStagr @Kryptotajeer @freemonotheist Strawmanning my position. The people who control these muslims bots are getting more retarded daily I affirm the Father ontologically and relationally while the Jews accepts the Father primarily metaphorical Do you guys accept Allah as ‘father’ ontologically or metaphorically?

@5FITCEO @Sheik_elizzy just like the holy spirit tickled paul and put him on that zaza. So that he can contradict the apostles regarding the consumption of meat sacrificed to idols...

The Holy Spirit can bless your brain with ideas and innovations that will change your life forever

@JStagr @Sheik_elizzy @Kryptotajeer @freemonotheist Yeah, I know there was no trinitarian dogma in the first three centuries. But they did believe that the Father is ontologically a father as the son proceeds from him as the logos of God. They legit say that he came out of his "bowels".

@tree777_6 @Sheik_elizzy @Kryptotajeer @freemonotheist None of the early Christians did. It took 300+ years to even come up with the idea of trinity.

@ImtiazMadmood of course, you use archeological misinterpretations and lingustic errors by a guy who was universally refuted and degraded by fellow historians...you are an athiest after all so it doesn't really matter if you lie or not...morals dont exist anyways

@ImtiazMadmood (part 15) It is as flawed as sayin christian worship a sun god because they go to church on sun-day, which was named after the sun god Sol. The moon god theory is a shitty of misinterpretations and linguistic errors that ignore the mutual monothestic heritage of the smitic world.

Allah, the Moon-God Allah is not the Jehovah of the Old Testament. In fact, Allah is a version of the Moon-god, a pagan god in Arabia who was worshipped during pre-Islamic times. That is why the Crescent moon is the symbol of Islam, and the month-long Ramadan fasting begins and ends with the crescent moon. Evidence of this can be found in the extensive archaeological digs in the Middle East over the last 100 years. Sir Leonard Woolley excavated a temple of the Moon god in Ur. The examples of moon worship that he found can now be seen in the British Museum. In the 1950s, a temple to the Moon God was excavated at Hazer in Palestine. Two idols of the Moon God were found. Each was a statue of a man seated on a throne with a crescent moon carved on his chest. Archaeologists excavated sites at Qataban, Timna, and Marib in the 1950s. Thousands of inscriptions from walls and rocks in Northern Arabia have been collected. Reliefs and votive bowls used in the worship of the "daughters of Allah" have also been discovered. The three daughters, al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat, are sometimes depicted together with Allah, the Moon God, represented by a crescent moon above them. Archaeological evidence demonstrates that the dominant religion of Arabia was the cult of the Moon God. The oldest name of the Moon God was Sin, of Sumerian origin. Hence, Sinai, or the wilderness of Sin. While the Arabs worshipped 360 gods at the Kabah in Mecca, the Mood god was the chief deity. The Moon-god was also called Il or Ilah, which eventually became Allah.'