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time is nothingness Every 4 hours, the door of time and space opens.... Get to know me from the story....

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vitalik.eth
vitalik.eth@VitalikButerin·
I think there's a fundamental difference between "speculation backed by speculation" and "speculation backed by feedback from some high-quality signal (ideally, reality itself) on reasonably short time periods". Ponzis are the former, and if you make something that is the former, then yeah, it's a ponzi. If you make something that is the latter, then to a first approximation, you have some hope of instead getting the benefits of a stock market. What I'm advocating is more like "ISAs for creators" than it is like creator coins as they have been done so far. The ultimate buyer that backs the mechanism is NOT greater fool theory of even more token buyers, rather it's creator DAOs collective-bargaining for other forms of revenue (eg. they could make their own subscription platform, or they could organize in-person events, etc etc)
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eylon ☯️🐲
eylon ☯️🐲@TheEylon·
Vitalik is diagnosing real symptoms (quality discovery is hard; speculative attention games distort incentives), but he keeps trying to “token engineer” his way out of a problem that tokens themselves created. The root cause isn’t “we haven’t found the right creator coin mechanism.” It's that Tokens are inherently ponzis When you allow unlimited token issuance with no hard identity constraint and no binding claim on cashflows, you inevitably get: - Infinite supply of new tokens → creators/influencers/teams have constant incentive to mint the next one - Attention becomes the underlying collateral → the asset is “number-go-up because people are watching,” not value - Reflexive incentives → the most profitable behavior becomes launching, pumping, and moving on - Selection bias toward high-status accounts → because status is the only durable “fundamental” in a token casino - Ponzi dynamics → early buyers need later buyers; “community” becomes exit liquidity That’s not a failure mode of Zora or BitClout specifically. That’s the default equilibrium of “creator coins” as a category.
vitalik.eth@VitalikButerin

How I would do creator coins We've seen about 10 years of people trying to do content incentivization in crypto, from early-stage platforms like Bihu and Steemit, to BitClout in 2021, to Zora, to tipping features inside of decentralized social, and more. So far, I think we have not been very successful, and I think this is because the problem is fundamentally hard. First, my view of what the problem is. A major difference between doing "creator incentives" in the 00s vs doing them today, is that in the 00s, a primary problem was having not enough content at all. In the 20s, there's plenty of content, AI can generate an entire metaverse full of it for like $10. The problem is quality. And so your goal is not *incentivizing content*, it's *surfacing good content*. Personally, I think that the most successful example of creator incentives we've seen is Substack. To see why, take a look at the top 10: substack.com/leaderboard/te… substack.com/leaderboard/cu… substack.com/leaderboard/wo… Now, you may disagree with many of these authors. But I have no doubt that: 1. They are on the whole high quality, and contribute positively to the discussion 2. They are mostly people who would not have been elevated without Substack's presence So Substack is genuinely surfacing high quality and pluralism. Now, we can compare to creator coin projects. I don't want to pick on a single one, because I think there's a failure mode of the entire category. For example: Top Zora creator coins: coingecko.com/en/categories/… BitClout: businessofbusiness.com/articles/insid… Basically, the top 10 are people who already have very high social status, and who are often impressive but primarily for reasons other than the content they create. At the core, Substack is a simple subscription service: you pay $N per month, and you get to see the person's articles. But a big part of Substack's success is that they did not just set the mechanism and forget. Their launch process was very hands-on, deliberately seeding the platform with high-quality creators, based on a very particular vision of what kind of high-quality intellectual environment they wanted to foster, including giving selected people revenue guarantees. So now, let's get to one idea that I think could work (of course, coming up with new ideas is inherently a more speculative project than criticizing existing ones, and more prone to error). Create a DAO, that is *not* token-based. Instead, the inspiration should be Protocol Guild: there are N members, and they can (anonymously) vote new members in and out. If N gets above ~200, consider auto-splitting it. Importantly, do _not_ try to make the DAO universal or even industry-wide. Instead, embrace the opinionatedness. Be okay with having a dominant type of content (long-form writing, music, short-form video, long-form video, fiction, educational...), and be okay with having a dominant style (eg. country or region of origin, political viewpoint, if within crypto which projects you're most friendly to...). Hand-pick the initial membership set, in order to maximize its alignment with the desired style. The goal is to have a group that is larger than one creator and can accumulate a public brand and collectively bargain to seek revenue opportunities, but at the same time small enough that internal governance is tractable. Now, here is where the tokens come in. In general, one of my hypotheses this decade is that a large portion of effective governance mechanisms will all have the form factor of "large number of people and bots participating in a prediction market, with the output oracle being a diverse set of people optimized for mission alignment and capture resistance". In this case, what we do is: anyone can become a creator and create a creator coin, and then, if they get admitted to a creator DAO, a portion of their proceeds from the DAO are used to burn their creator coins. This way, the token speculators are NOT participating in a recursive-speculation attention game backed only by itself. Instead, they are specifically being predictors of what new creators the high-value creator DAOs will be willing to accept. At the same time, they also provide a valuable service to the creator DAOs: they are helping surface promising creators for the DAOs to choose from. So the ultimate decider of who rises and falls is not speculators, but high-value content creators (we make the assumption that good creators are also good judges of quality, which seems often true). Individual speculators can stay in the game and thrive to the extent that they do a good job of predicting the creator DAOs' actions.

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Gate of time
Gate of time@0Gateoftime0·
Somewhere, somewhere, a door appeared, exuding a strange atmosphere...
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There's more, coming soon...
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Gate of time@0Gateoftime0·
She was once a kind young woman, sacrificing everything for her poor family. Time passed, her face aged, her hands grew rough, yet she longed to regain her youth and find happiness. Now, she stands before the Gate of Time, trembling as she whispers, "Grant me youth and
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Gate of time@0Gateoftime0·
Once a feared ruler of the seas, Captain Alaric lost everything to betrayal. Scarred and weary, he stands before the Gate of Time, whispering, "Grant me wealth, power... and the chance to reclaim it all
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Guthix 🫵
Guthix 🫵@GuthixHL·
The market just showed you today which coin you should long for the rest of the cycle
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Gate of time
Gate of time@0Gateoftime0·
Stickers are being cooking...
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Gate of time@0Gateoftime0·
The old man Helles stared at the door of time and space with greedy eyes. He was once the lord of a country, but he pushed the country to destruction because of his extravagant greed. Now, he is alone, eager to return to the peak of power through the gate of time and space.
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Tracy Alloway
Tracy Alloway@tracyalloway·
So what should I know about Hyperliquid?
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