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@MallowTheQueen The issue is that it’s not just me, it’s the popular consensus. Loads of people played the beta and the free week and did not stick around, which is why people are suggesting ways for other people to experience the story you love. Making it more niche only hurts the story

@Gleptpgz And I say all this as someone that really didn't enjoy Extraction Shooters, Battle Royale, or anything similar before this game. I was a Marathon26 hater. Now I love it

I don't wanna put anyone on blast, but I saw someone say "I've never played Marathon, but it would be better with a single player campaign" and I actively lost brain cells

@MallowTheQueen I’ve played extraction shooters, including marathon, and they aren’t conducive to story in any meaningful way for me. They feel like roguelites but to just make you angry and probably get called a slur.

@Gleptpgz Whether or not you feel the game is for you, that's for you to decide. I can't change your mind on that. But I truly believe anyone is doing themselves a disservice by not approaching the game where it stands, rather than where they want it to be.

@MallowTheQueen They could’ve done a different story for the solo experience allowing the same thing, but also the points you are making are why it isn’t doing well. People don’t want to be shit on by a 14 year old with no life while trying to explore a world.

@Gleptpgz This could've been done through a solo experience, but it would lack the tension and exploration the current game provides. As well as this, the meta elements pull us further into the world, building a connection

@MallowTheQueen They could’ve still done that experience just in parallel with another story based mode/game to make people care. There isn’t a good enough hook.

@Gleptpgz Personally I think that wouldn't really work, because it goes against the narrative and experience Marathon26 is providing. Narratively, we're exploring a lost colony that's only been recently rediscovered, whilst trying to piece together the events that led us here.

@MallowTheQueen Tales from the Borderlands is a great game, if people hadn’t played Borderlands 2 and TPS a few years beforehand no one would have bought the game. Aside from the tell tale genre fans which is not a lot of people.

@MallowTheQueen Marathon the extraction shooter would have been far more successful if the marathon universe was reestablished in the modern mind somehow. And attempting to do that initially with a new concept in a niche market was not smart.

@MallowTheQueen My bad.

@Gleptpgz No, it was a genuine question

@MallowTheQueen These were all done in the midst of the regular games being made, on the side. Not as a revamp to a cherished IP. If they came out 3 decades after BL2 with Tales I would have been pissed.

@Gleptpgz If you feel the only experience a game series is capable of providing is something that ALWAYS needs to stick to the same genre and game design as the originals, then I'm afraid you are missing out on some awesome games

@MallowTheQueen You are arriving at the same point as the person you criticized, “The story is good, but people don’t like the core gameplay features what if they did something to help that” and you said they were dumb.

@MallowTheQueen Oh my god you’re so stupid, no one will engage with it because it’s in a shitty fad extraction shooter. The core gameplay that they changed, I don’t know if you remember that or not.

@MallowTheQueen They took a campaign, story based IP made a shitty fad niche genre game and people rightly are pointing out it should have been a bit similar to the original IP. Or at least have a focus on its strong points, narrative.

@Gleptpgz I used the example of a game's core design being twisted to fit into a gameplay style it was not designed for, creating an awkward and disconnected experience. Marathon 26 REDESIGNED that core in the 30 years since the original trilogy. They simply aren't the same conversation

@charleynomore @yorpdorp @moleyyy @TheInSneider You’re a moron.

@yorpdorp @moleyyy @TheInSneider “just like how you didn’t” bro i’m not here to make you all less stupid, the audacity to ask me to fix all your shortcomings, go read

Not even I am as delusional as Anthony Fantano...

@TheInSneider @FaitelsonSDLG No one’s heard of Lester Bangs, way more people have heard of Fantano

Not arguing his impact. He's the real deal, I get it. But he's not Lester Bangs. Nor do I really believe in the power of music journalism. I've never read an article about a band and been like, 'Now I have to listen to them!' You discover music by listening to it, not reading about it.

@MallowTheQueen That’s literally what you said.

@Gleptpgz ok buddy, whatever helps you sleep at night lmao

@MallowTheQueen You’re example of dumb game design is a solo experience being made into shitty PvP shooters, which is literally what they did to marathon. You are a moron.

@Gleptpgz Just because an IP was a single player game 3 decades ago, doesn't mean the core design and systems of the modern installment automatically translates into the same experience. This is basic game design

@PaulTassi Call of Duty Zombies lore through bo4 is immaculate

I mean, dollar-wise, this is technically correct. Obviously not in cultural impact, where I can probably name like four characters from 12 games

@Voidnigx @Damac1214 No.

@Damac1214 TFS should've been focused on Cayde and his backstory

I remember people calling Cade Final Shape a desperation move and Glup Shitto and then it was probably the best use the character ever got

@MallowTheQueen Moronic take as marathon started as a single player game.

idk. "I've never played Marathon, but it would be better with a single player campaign" to me is honestly on the same level as "I've never played Resident Evil, but it would be better with a PvP Multiplayer hero shooter"