~~Vermin~~

-Economically expensive, meaning it increases prices and reduces competition -Easily curcumvented through free VPNs (proton, opera eg.) -Deanonymises uses on a mass scale -Inconvenient -16 yo's can vote, but cant watch porn or look at "violent" protests petition.parliament.uk/petitions/7229…

@Sa_survivorsfic @Ethoswaifuwu If the term changes depending upon the context then it is referring to the target of attraction rather than the attraction itself. Therefore, it has no basis in a conversation about attractions.

@_Vermin_ @Ethoswaifuwu The term sexualize is for literal stuff. When we talk about the sexualization of a child in psychology we're talking about a real kid. The term doesn't exclude non-persons, exclude non-person when the sexualization isn't against them.

If u sexualized a minor (real person), u are a molester. If u like a fictional character, it's just that, sexual or not.

@Sa_survivorsfic @Ethoswaifuwu This discussion has nothing to do with pedophilia and everything to do with a useful definition for the term "sexualise". If the definition doesn't include non-persons, then it wouldn't include fetishes (which under your view, the experts also believe in, correct?).

@_Vermin_ @Ethoswaifuwu Alright, so you think you or your dictionary understand better about pedophilia than people that study psychology and make a lot of studies about pedophile's behavior using the scientific method to write what's pedophilia?

@sephiroth976 @DelusionPosting Whatever you say kek

@_Vermin_ @DelusionPosting You only care about yourself.

@Sa_survivorsfic @Ethoswaifuwu Again, you haven't understood the scientific method if you conceive of it only through "experts". Science isn't a dogma.

@_Vermin_ @Ethoswaifuwu The definition I use was the dictionary definition. Now can you see why it's not okay use a definition used in science without using the definition the experts agree is more accurate?

@chai_chuu92094 @nivexity @Gr33ngamestone You're a bigot because you conceive of the mere existence of certain attractions as "dehumanizing" to other groups. This is like saying men dehumanize women by being attracted to them. Not to mention how these groups are literal objects of attraction (i.e. fictional entities).

@_Vermin_ @nivexity @Gr33ngamestone Im a bigot bc i find it unbelievably dehumanizing when ppl draw flat chested women or female animals to have unrealistic body proportions?

@sephiroth976 @DelusionPosting Boo hoo, I'm so sorry my care about the world upsets you. Loser.

@_Vermin_ @DelusionPosting Why the fuck am i even still talking to you, for a second i forgot youre also a pedophile, your right to an opinion on this was discarded a long time ago.

@sephiroth976 @DelusionPosting Completely emotional response with no care for the actual consequences that befall children ^

@_Vermin_ @DelusionPosting Completely different issue, you can still have sex at the end of the day without it being a crime. You dont fucking encourage pedophiles by putting out images like that because at the end of the day what THEY want to do is fucking illegal and disgusting.

@Sa_survivorsfic @Ethoswaifuwu You haven't understood what I've written, nor do you seem to understand "science". Science is a process, not a doctrine. If a definition is not useful, it is scientific to criticise and offer alternative definitions. The definition they provided has no justification and a flaw.

@_Vermin_ @Ethoswaifuwu Again, even if the dictionary say something that doesn't mean is okay in science stuff. You can't go to someone that study biology and say "Dinosaur means big reptile" because that's not true, so even if the dictionary say is okay you're wrong, the description is wrong.

@sephiroth976 @DelusionPosting Except you're wrong and the accessibility of porn is associated with a decrease in sexual crime rates across a variety of nations. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21116701/

@_Vermin_ @DelusionPosting Its not gonna improve with your solution either, they arent going to focus on just fictional content, you think people stopped having sex because porn exists? No. At least my solution is a punishment, yours could potentially make more offenders by making it easier to find.

@Sa_survivorsfic @Ethoswaifuwu Semantic debates are resolved either by arguments surrounding description or prescription. Descriptively this isn't how the word is used (hence the dictionary). Prescriptively, the definition provided neglects non-person targets of sexuality (my main argument you neglected).

@_Vermin_ @Ethoswaifuwu Dictionaries aren't valid as arguments about sociology, psychology or any other science since is not based on the real meaning but in a resume of how a group of people tend to perceive words.

@DudleyRay12 @StameringGadfly Liberalism is not leftism.

@StameringGadfly We've seen enough leftism "flourishing" and we want nothing to do with it. In fact, it is in these events we learned that you encourage: - Release violet criminals from jail time - Fiery but "mostly peaceful" protesting - Political Assassination - Self defense law is wrong

Liberalism is not perfect, far far from it. But is has created societies that permit more possibility of human flourishing than it’s alternatives.

@sephiroth976 @DelusionPosting If all that results of this is that they focus entirely on fictional content, rather than harming real children, that is a positive outcome and you'd be insane for denying it. Considering your solution does nothing to improve the status quo, it should be rejected.

@_Vermin_ @DelusionPosting Okay il answer, youre wrong, putting these things in front of more people is going to create more deviated fucktards who start thinking its okay because its "not real". You wanna give the heroin addict heroin thinking its gonna help the situation.

@Ethoswaifuwu So, are you gonna respond to my actual argument or are you gonna keep to your flawed private language?

@_Vermin_ Dictionary lmao.

@sephiroth976 @DelusionPosting Nice diversion kek

@_Vermin_ @DelusionPosting I go to your profile and the first thing i see is some underage anime shit, yeah, your opinion checks out.

@sephiroth976 @DelusionPosting As long as pedophilia naturally emerges in all human populations, which it will, your solution will fail. The only way to reduce sexual crime is to supply such demand in a safe way. Prohibition will always fail. Harm reduction will always succeed.

@_Vermin_ @DelusionPosting Well id argue its better to keep trying than to produce AI generated children and give it to predators.

@Kaindu_ @Lilith_Ltx People dress in ways they consider sexually appealing? The horror!

@Lilith_Ltx >Goes in public in a latex fetish suit "these terminally online people lmao" ....

Can't believe this got me into trouble with definitely not terminally online people.

@subzndubz @DelusionPosting 1. Porn reduces libido and thus sexual crime 2. Attractions are not entirely genetic pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21116701/

Providing pedos with porn just makes them assault someone faster than they would have. It stimulated them but leaves them unfulfilled. The way we end child exploitation like this is through lifetime incarceration and eugenics. We lock up and breed out whatever mental illness causes this permanent condition.

@sovietfloridian @htsssebb5543 @DelusionPosting Incorrect. All porn, even CSEM, being more accessible leads to a reduction in sexual crime. This is independently verified across countries. Pop psychology is just wrong. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21116701/

@htsssebb5543 @DelusionPosting This argument fails to consider that porn isn't regular media: it's more addictive and rewires your brain worse than hard drugs like heroin. CP is even worse. If you flood the markets with even low quality stuff, the desire for it becomes ever stronger.

@sephiroth976 @DelusionPosting How revolutionary! Surely this hasn't been attempted for thousands of years to no avail.

@DelusionPosting How about no, how about we dont do that. Instead of killing the economic demand, how about we just go straight to the source and kill the pedophile, invest in more electric chairs.