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Exceptionally rational opinion. Thanks Yannis for saying this despite all of the incentives to jump on the anti-Israel bandwagon. Antizionists invert history and apply double standards to the creation of the Jewish state. No different from the creation of Pakistan, except less severe displacement than from the creation of Pakistan. history blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-antizionis…

I don’t think the way Israel was founded in the vacuum of a defeated Ottoman Empire was good. But how is its creation fundamentally different from all nations, most of which were formed after empires collapsed, borders were redrawn, and populations were displaced?

@Jsp_Nic Tfw nobody seems to believe the stuff you learned from your favorite IDF reservist at Zionist summer camp

It’s as if people who believe in this conspiracy have never heard of Occam’s Razor. To believe Israel is fundamentally expansionist, you need to weave together a mosaic of different ad hoc explanations, using each one to plug the holes in the theory to account for each time Israel did something that is non-expansionist and you have to invent intentions. Israel withdraws from the Sinai in 1982? They say it’s purely due to American pressure. Israel grants autonomy to the PA over most of the WB? The PA is a Zionist subcontractor. Israel withdraws from Lebanon? It desperately wanted to stay and annex but it was kicked out. Israel withdraws from Gaza? Was just a trick to turn Gaza into an “open air prison.” Israel currently holding territory in Syria and Lebanon? Has nothing to do with defensive buffers and Israel plans on annexing. The point is that you need to find some acrobatic explanation for each individual instance, because each one of them pokes a hole in the theory. If Israel’s ambitions were truly expansionist, why would it have withdrawn from territory again and again? There is a simpler explanation: Israel does not have an expansive agenda. People seem to forget that the simplest explanation is often the correct one. If you have to concoct a different explanation to account for each observation or if each of observation is an exception and you’re left with many exceptions, then your theory is probably flawed.

@z_e_silver @Alonso_GD Oy vey man. Explain the argument. There is no argument. You have brainworms that your parents put there. You don’t engage in rational thought and reasoning because you’re a rabid ideologue. That’s why your movement is failing.

@literallysup @Alonso_GD See you’re too fucking stupid to even understand the stupidity of your argument.

So when Hamas was firing rockets indiscriminately on Israeli citizens since the unilateral withdrawal from Gaza for 20 years… did you care about that as well?

@z_e_silver @Alonso_GD When did I even mention Iran? What does their bad and incorrect decision to not sign the Rome statute have to do with Israel’s? But okay genius, if Israel is so superior to Iran, why do they operate in such a similar manner and make the same kinds of diplomatic decisions?

@literallysup @Alonso_GD Despite your logic being absolutely fucking brain dead, Iran isn’t a signatory to the Rome Statute either so what does that fucking tell you then you dingbat by your own stupid brain dead logic?

@z_e_silver @Alonso_GD Right. So it is it. They didn’t sign the agreement to partake in international law, because they knew they’d constantly break it and believe they’re above it. Jesus fucking Christ man. They really fucked your brain up at Zionist summer camp

@literallysup @Alonso_GD No that’s actually not it. They’re not a signatory of the Rome Treaty which is the basis for the ICC. Maybe you should be less fucking moronic.

@NormalDemocrats Genocide deniers aren’t going to be welcome in the democratic party anymore. Go vote Republican or move to Israel. It’s gonna get a whole lot worse

The persistent use of terms like war crime and genocide by the Democrats to incite hate and redefine legal warfare is doing irreparable damage to our country and allies. To state the obvious, destroying a bridge used by the enemy for military purposes is not a war crime.

@z_e_silver @Alonso_GD Huh? No you don’t lol. You’re a Likudnik. You absolutely do not want it to be followed. Ah yes of course. That old chestnut. They didn’t agree to follow the law so it doesn’t apply to them. Perhaps when it falls you can reflect on that decision. Entitlement usually ends badly

@literallysup @Alonso_GD Because I don’t want to weaponize it. I just want it to be followed… which none of you are. Because if you did actually follow international law, you’d know the ICC has no jurisdiction over Israel.

@z_e_silver @Alonso_GD You don’t care about international law lol. You’re not even properly weaponizing it.

@literallysup @Alonso_GD Oh sorry did the LAW part of international law get in the way of your ideology?

@z_e_silver @Alonso_GD People can’t explain things to you that you don’t want to understand. None of this matters. The sense of entitlement that was passed down to you, that lives in your ideology, has you demanding condemnations from others. You, a genocide. Come on man. Be for real.

@literallysup @Alonso_GD He “supports the ICC warrants” even though the ICC warrants are literally invalid according to international law.

@IzaTabaro It’s crazy that you don’t feel any sort of obligation to have a worldview that is even remotely tethered to reality and grounded in truth. Everything you have built your identity on is essentially a fairytale you were told as a child lol. It’s pathetic

We actually understand antizionism quite well. One of the things that makes it so powerful is that it’s grounded in a conspiracy theory about Jewish evil and power, replicating the tropes, motifs, and explanatory logic of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The two are not simply similar: as my work shows, Soviet antizionist ideology, which forms the foundation of contemporary antizionism, is structurally grounded in the Protocols. We’re having trouble defeating antizionism for the same reasons we’ve struggled to defeat “classical” antisemitism: antisemitic conspiracy theory is notoriously seductive, contagious, and self-sealing (impervious to contrary evidence). Libeling Israel as a genocidal, apartheid, imperialist, settler-colonial state draws on the same demonizing logic historically used to portray Jews as bloodthirsty, deicidal, and demonic. The same logic is at work in equating Zionists with Nazis. In other words, “Israel Derangement Syndrome,” which we’re seeing everywhere right now, has the same features as the historical obsession with Jews — even when it avoids the word “Jews” and uses “Israel” or “Zionists” instead. Here’s a slide I use in my presentations tracing the parallels. Also see my article: “Demonization Blueprints: Soviet Conspiracist Antizionism in Contemporary Left-Wing Discourse.” (Link in next post, open access.)

@MaytalKowalski This is one person, who it sounds like you’re trying to say represents a whole lot of people. Interestingly enough, you did a subtle genocide denial, which does put you in the same camp as ohhhh, idk, Noa Tishby? Eylon Levy? Eve Barlow? Take your pick. You’re aligned!

The people most adamant we name the war in Gaza a genocide are troubled by the commemoration and memory of a genocide. The mind truly boggles at what the difference could be.

@GreenfieldMax18 Of everything I’ve seen today, those two performances are what I’m most excited about.

@literallysup 4 strikeouts and two weak fly balls for them today.

You think that outing meant something to Jake Bird? He was pumped coming off the mound.

@GreenfieldMax18 Totally. I wouldn’t be shocked if they both panned out, just being conservative I think 1 of the 2 will find themselves as a viable high leverage option this year. Both totally possible.

@literallysup I think both of them do

@GreenfieldMax18 I’m bullish on him. If he can be more consistent with command across his pitch mix I think he has a chance to be an elite #3 starter, maybe even a viable #2

Overall solid day for Will Warren. Gave up a couple of homers but didn't walk anyone and not a lot of hard contact either. A ton to like about his day.

@NoahPollak The idea that Ben Rhodes is a “communist” is as moronic as the notion that Israel hasn’t committed war crimes, which is as moronic as your thinking this sort of whataboutism Hasbara still works. The general public is repulsed by your violent right wing filth.

I love the pure situational ethics of communists. Ben Rhodes would have you believe he cares about war crimes after eight years in the White House championing Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Iranian regime. I bet war crimes really keep him up at night. A central moral concern for Ben. Any weapon at hand for these clowns.

@z_e_silver @Alonso_GD The irony of Zionists l, who ardently support the Likudnik governments genocide thinking they have moral standing to demand condemnations from others, is inescapable. Lack of self awareness, continuously doing this has certainly played a role in support for your cause plummeting

@literallysup @Alonso_GD Did he? Can you screenshot that for me where he explicitly stated that Hamas has been violating intl law for 20 years without enforcement by the intl community? Bc I didn’t.

@jewneral How’d it go down?

You say whatever you want but that’s not how it went down

Ancient tradition of unconditionally supporting the far right government of a secular nation state younger than my grandma?