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The avatar state is the combination of a cosmic energy boost from raava as well as skills from past lives.
Vaatu >> Raava, meaning Unalaq was getting a much more powerful cosmic energy boost than Korra was. And they were literally fighting on a waterbender's turf which -

Hayley the GOAT@hayleyafterriot
This the same girl who couldn’t beat a first gen avatar like unalaq when Korra was in avatar state and korra had all four elements while unalaq only had water and in base until the end…? Okay…..
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@GrunnaXrp Wan's entire story was also to show its possible for a human to coexist with spirits. They just need to LEARN how to respect the spirits and what better way to do that than by living together.
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There was an entire speech on why Humans and spirits can't live in Harmony together
Darth Shinobi@christ621ml
Who made the bigger mistake: Avatar Wan for sealing the spirit portals, or Korra for reopening them?
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@DiscardedLeaf @Lord_Hokage_PTS @godofavatar I don't think Mako would have a problem seeing in dust storms
And it depends on the fighting location too, if its a more open area, they could easily pull away from the clouded area.
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@Lord_Hokage_PTS @godofavatar Disagree on the Toph one tbh. Mako and Bolin don't really have an answer for the dust storm strat she used in the arena. And if they can't see her, but she can see them, she sweeps
Rest are accurate though
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“Korra never lost in the Avatar State”
- Korra losing to random jobber spirit#4578, in the Avatar state..
Mael-DXT@Qliphoth2002
Excuse you Korra never lost in the avatar state and don't bring up zaheer because she was forced into it and was dying. AANG IS THE ONLY AVATAR THAT HAS LOST IN THE AVATAR STATE.
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@J_Hanes18 @kidomaki_real She literally cries out in pain bruh, Wan's attack HURT her
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@ChirpyCipher @kidomaki_real She wasn’t weak bc of wand attack but bc of darkness corrupting spirits
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@J_Hanes18 @kidomaki_real Where was it suggested that Father glow worm regenerates? The book literally stated that FGW shrunk in size with every successful hit, he just had to keep hitting away at it.
Meanwhile vaatu showed zero changes in size no matter how big of a hit he took. They're not the same

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@ChirpyCipher @kidomaki_real Father glow worm was also able to regenerate but prolonged battle permanently weakened him.then he fought yin for 3 days straight and was further weakened. So this doesn’t probe tht its not possible to kill vattu with physical attacks
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@J_Hanes18 @kidomaki_real Now for another example of a spirit that was impervious to bending attacks, we have the wolf spirit that literally ate fire. How do you expect to hurt a spirit like that with normal bending?

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@J_Hanes18 @kidomaki_real - Sokka should try knocking out the owl faced spirit with a book then, see if it works.
- I'll even add an example for you, Tui and La are great spirits but they could be killed by regular bending. Not all spirits are resistant to bending attacks, but there are ones who are
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@RGangstalicious - wouldn't be able to do anything. Eg. If Amon decided to leave him pinned down to the ground, there's nothing mako could've done about it.

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@Detroiteffect @RGangstalicious Ohh
But its not even inconsistent per se man
Mako was able to shoot that lightning because he was skilled enough to bend instant lightning with minimal movements, AND the circumstances lined up perfectly for him
Like literally change the scene just a bit and Mako -
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All Amon ever did was figure out how to "fake" block these chi paths any waterbending healer can detect. Skill is impressive yes but he definitely can't bloodbend 3+ people without getting distracted & losing his grip. Yakone's feat is stronger as much as Amon is more skilled

Emma MCB@jaybeethefourth
Taking someone's bending away compared to blood bending a court room full of people
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@RGangstalicious - himself later)
Plus the fact that Amon had mastered Yakone's bloodbending technique since he was 14 bro. In TLOK, he's already 40, that's 26 years, and he said mako was the first ever in those 26 YEARS to get the better of him like that.
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@Detroiteffect @RGangstalicious This will be a long reply, but think about it, amon was able to overpower Tarlokk's bloodbending grip easily, the same guy that took out 9 people (mako included) at a time earlier. This already implies that Amon has a much stronger bloodbending than tarlokk (which he confirmed -
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@Tenetley71 @atrashtanooki @Thedoom7994224 @kidomaki_real Also, its not like its just the elements that sealed vaatu, he had to be sealed in the tree of time specifically. That tree plays a major role in holding vaatu down, considering thats where he was even formed from. It was more of a spiritual barrier, than just elements.
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@Tenetley71 @atrashtanooki @Thedoom7994224 @kidomaki_real His physical form is completely vanquished so yes he's gone, he will have to be REBORN over 10,000 years. You're the one attempting mental gymnastics by trying to compare being sealed in a "prison" (and still existing with a healthy physical form) to spiritbending 🤦🏾♂️
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@Tenetley71 @atrashtanooki @Thedoom7994224 @kidomaki_real Dude, the fact that wan and korra had to SEAL vaatu further proves the point that normal bending can't defeat some dark spirits.
When a character seals an enemy its usually because they have no means of definitely defeating it with normal methods, ts is not hard man.
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@atrashtanooki @Thedoom7994224 @ChirpyCipher @kidomaki_real Please don’t argue with Korra fans. They make statements like we didn’t watch TLOK. How was Korra going to seal Vaatu? She used the 4 elements and he couldn’t escape. So stop saying it’s only spirit bending. Clearly bending the elements can affect the spirit.
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@atrashtanooki @kidomaki_real If no one literally EXISTS who can, then that means based on existing facts that we have, normal bending can't defeat those spirits, how is this hard to understand?
You're debating facts with hypotheticals here🤦🏾♂️
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@ChirpyCipher @kidomaki_real That's still not how that works, its not that they CANT its that no one exists who can. We know this due to the fact that the lower spirits CAN be hurt by normal attacks.
This fact alone means that if a stronger bender DID exists (the point they were making) they could beat it.
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