
Basileus
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@liujingbreak @RichardHanania What are you even? Twitter is banned in China.
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@MrBasileus @RichardHanania Since India and Indian life quality is much behind China, is that how your ruling class making ppl believing "caste system" can make a nation better?
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My timeline is now full of Indians saying that low caste girls in China are forced to dance for upper caste Chinese men. This is something that apparently only Indians on Twitter know about and no one else.
Krish@KrishnaPra60146
Lower caste nong girl forced to dance infront of upper caste shi men if they want to stay in shengai as lower caste people as shang nong gong are not allowed in city
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Wanted to understand of the truth of the "Chinese Caste System" beyond the satire.
While it is basically irrelevant now (Hukou system is something else I'd say), there seems to be a myth of individual mobility being available to all.
While any male, regardless of birth, could take the exam in theory, actual practice meant:
-10-20 years of full-time study of Confucian classics
-The ability to write in classical Chinese
-Mastery of the 8-Legged Essay, a highly rigid composition with formal structural requirements
-Various other scholarly stipulations that most likely could not be afforded to 95%+ of Chinese males
This was all supposed to either self-taught or of course more commonly at the feet of an expensive tutor.
What about rich merchants at the bottom? Prior to the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), they were banned from even participating.
So who actually took the exam?
In Benjamin Elman's book, Civil Examinations & meritocracy in Late Imperial China, he notes that while millions would gather every 2-3 years outside official exam compounds, only 1% of candidates actually completed the academic regimen to earn them a post in the imperial administrative bureaucracy.
During the Tang Dynasty (618-907), examinations were mostly concentrated amongst aristocratic families with 6,688 (or 20 individuals per year) breaking through the most prestigious ranks of jinshi.
The opposite end of this is the Qing Dynasty (1644-1912), where 37-45% of top degree holders came from families with no prior official lineage for 3 generations. This is mobility, but it can also mean from gentry, not simply a poor peasant farmer. Nonetheless, only 26,840 achieved top ranks of jinshi (102 per year).
My point being, the idea of individual mobility is EXTREMELY overrated & on a societal level is essentially non-existent.
And that is actually fine. Most pre-industrial societies had low mobility in general.

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According to the Migration Policy Institute, the Indian population in the US has almost doubled since 2010. At least 12% (500,000+) of all Indians in the US are now in Texas.
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No other society in the world has a repressive, dehumanising, caste system by birth, from which there is no escape, like the caste system in India and manufacturing false narratives about China's society isn't going to change that.
Rajesh Meena@RMeena21620
@AnkitM997 You should read what some senior scholars write about caste system (CS) in China. The current memes are obv sarcastic but CS in China is a harsh reality. Its not explored by many scholars cuz CCP obv won't allow foreign scholars to conduct such studies. In India, scholars can do
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In China, people from different castes are often stereotyped as looking different. Shi people are considered the most attractive because they come from the highest caste. Nong people are generally seen as fairly attractive, while Gong people are viewed as average-looking. Shang and Jianmin are often stereotyped as being the least attractive.

Tanya Dave@TanyaaDave
I didn't know there was a caste system in China too.
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@MrBasileus @TanyaaDave But, but saar, we send them all to the West. 🤡
Gutter oil? India has people eating from garbage dumps. Open sewers. Food stalls next to burning trash. 🤮 Yep, tell us more about gutter oil.
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🇮🇳🇹🇷 Canan Çelebioğlu, Chairwoman of Çelebi Holding, spoke for the first time about the cancellation of the license of their company operating in India following Operation Sindoor: "I loved India. That's what made it so shocking. It truly devastated us."
Çelebioğlu, a guest on the "İşte Zirve" program on Bloomberg HT, described the events that followed the Indian government's May 15, 2025 decision.
The chairwoman said that the operations in India were terminated by a government decision and that approximately 10,000 employees were transferred to other companies in a single day. She added that the $400-500 million in value created over the years had vanished in an instant.
Among other things she said:
“We entered India and became the largest ground handling company there. I was obsessed with India — I called it my second country.
“Last year, around May 15th, the Indian government shut us down. They seized all our equipment, transferred 10,000 employees to another company in a single day — and wiped out a value we had built of perhaps $400–500 million. Gone in one day.
“Put the financial loss aside. That place was built stitch by stitch. We spent years pushing the government to change policies, to develop the sector.
“And I loved India. That's what made it so shocking. It truly devastated us.”
Çelebi Airport Services India, a subsidiary of Çelebi Holding, had its security permit revoked by the Civil Aviation Security Bureau (BCAS) of India on May 15, 2025, on grounds of "national security".
Following the decision, the company's ground handling and cargo operations at nine airports, including Delhi, Mumbai, Bengaluru, Hyderabad, Chennai, Goa, Kochi, and Kannur, were suspended. On the same day, the airport operators also terminated their contracts with Çelebi, and the operations were transferred to different companies.
Çelebi Holding, which has been operating in India for approximately 17 years, initiated legal proceedings following the decision. The company argued that the "national security" justification was not supported by concrete evidence. However, the Delhi High Court found the Indian government's decision to revoke the security permit to be lawful.
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@RichardHanania It is just trolling to counter the Chinese bots spreading anti-India fake news.
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@arya_amsha But nobody is falling for it. The community notes is constantly debunking it. It's only use is it's nuisance value.
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Ohh Audrey, this is sad, but typical of those who are “scholar-activists” rather than scholars…I didn’t call upon anyone to correct our wiki page, the literal founder of the platform, @lsanger did!
And you say that “academic consensus” says we’re part of a parivar, but then the only academic article you quote is one written by you! The others are such examples of scholarship as the Caravan & an anonymous anti-Hindu troll handle called Savera.
You’re really not making a strong argument here 🤷🏽♀️

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If Tamil Nadu had unfairly closed Sterlite Copper in Thoothukudi (Tuticorin), the same region would not have continued to attract significant industrial investments afterward.
I am tired of reading claims that Tamil Nadu politicians were part of a Chinese conspiracy to undermine India’s self sufficiency in copper.
In my view, as a large industrial player, Vedanta believed it could continue operations without fully addressing environmental concerns. Ultimately, the rule of law prevailed.
There is no need to take my word for it. If you are willing to spend the time, all the facts and court judgments are available in the public domain.
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@RoKhanna @BernieSanders Fine him for his/companies crimes. Enforce the laws instead of promoting envy and class warfare!
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Musk is worth more than South Africa’s GDP. @BernieSanders and I proposed a 5% tax on people like him.
In one year, it could fund:
- free public college & trade school
-$10/day childcare
- Special-needs education nationwide
Wealth inequality is the moral failure of our time.
Gabriel Zucman@gabriel_zucman
Those who celebrate @elonmusk's $1 trillion fortune need to be reminded of a simple and vital truth: That there is a fundamental tension between extreme wealth and the very possibility of democracy.
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