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Martin Lowe
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Martin Lowe
@NormalDenizen
Over-educated social scientist, beloved shitposter and insult connoisseur, recently returned from a gruelling odyssey.
Tønsberg, Norway شامل ہوئے Haziran 2013
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Functionalists:
“My digital mind works the same. If you deny consciousness, you’re a vitalist!"
Sanity:
“Your digital mind is missing a ton of the actual physics, but consciousness still magically travels with the pattern. Who’s the vitalist now?”
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@dela3499 @NeoptolemusX @DrewPavlou Emigration from europe isn’t represented either (some 20 million in the same time period, according to my local LLM).
And the legal immigration, for comparison, was 35 million people, meaning 1 in ~4 migrants were illegal.
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@NeoptolemusX @DrewPavlou It’s highly misleading, though, as the non-immigrant population isn’t shown for comparison. I can’t tell whether the country is 5% immigrants or 95% at any given point.
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It’s one thing to see a graph saying, “12 million illegal migrants entered Europe since 2008.”
It’s another thing to actually see it.
Every blip in this animation represents 100 people.
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And here’s the problem with modern statistical science in education.
I bet half the replies go «yeah but how representative is that sample?». Good point! Probably higher SES than the other group, probably by quite a lot. Confounders everywhere.
Better question though, is «how can we find the true numbers?», and the answer is you can’t.
I mean you could, but then you’d have to get past the ethics board with a random cohort of kids not going to school. Good luck with that.
There will never be good research on this until people warm up to the idea that school isn’t what it’s cracked up to be, and if we do get there, we probably won’t need numbers?
In other words, the idea that schools are great is shielded from criticism.
Smirkley@Smirkley
Only teachers are smart enough to educate children. Education majors, training to become certified teachers, score an average of 1029 on the SAT. While homeschooled students (taught by parents with no formal teaching credentials) score 1190.
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@Principal_Jon @justabuzzard A family of teachers ought to have noticed
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A teaching credential has no impact on student achievement.
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@QiaochuYuan Dunno if this article makes this mistake, but I see it everywhere:
«Simulated water is not wet.» Yes it is, if the observer is also simulated and the simulation is good enough. Wetness is not a quality of water, it is a qualia of humans experiencing it. Total non-argument.
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@QiaochuYuan Yeah, it’s a good article.
But… A discussion on what can be simulated or not, that does not mention the Church-Turing-Deutsch theorem 🤔
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easiest-to-understand argument against functionalism i've come across so far 🧐
Pawel Pachniewski@pwlot
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I could cenceivably be among them. In primary school the math teacher was beside herself because of how easily I picked it up. My children both learned divition and multiplication in kindergarten (with no input and pressure from me).
But a series of bad teachers convinced me math was boring and that I had no knack for it after all. By the time I was applying for university, STEM was a non-option.
One of my life’s biggest could-have-been’s.
And so, when my daughter came home from school in 2024 and said «I hate math», around 15 minutes passed before she was formally unrolled from school.
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Also a vast, and strange, case of society-wide amnesia.
We know we have forgotten how to solve quadratic equations, and our kids will forget as well, yet we insist they learn it, at a time when we KNOW they will not use it!
David Deutsch@DavidDeutschOxf
@mathladyhazel More importantly, at 16, most pupils can solve a quadratic equation. At 32, few can. Compulsory maths lessons are therefore a vast economic inefficiency and a vast moral calamity. There is no justification for wasting people's lives like this.
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@tshddx @ToKTeacher The latter.
And he means fulfilled in the objective sense of «getting all your wants met», not in the subjective sense of being content and happy with your life.
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@ToKTeacher Is the claim then that it’s impossible for any person to be fulfilled? Or that it’s impossible for *every* person to be fulfilled?
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TIL in Thomas Sowell's 1995 work "The Vision of the Anointed" he writes his oft cited claim like this: “Moreover, the available resources are always inadequate to fulfil all the desires of all the people. Thus there are no 'solutions' in the tragic vision, but only trade-offs that still leave many unfulfilled and much unhappiness in the world.”
Scare quotes around 'solutions'!
That is absolutely crucial and alters the intention if they're lacking. He is not saying a tradeoff isn't a solution of a kind - but rather if one thinks perfect solutions where everyone gets everything they want given limited resources is generally possible: that's a mistake.
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There is infinite amount of work to do, yes.
But it's going to be economically irrational for humans to be doing it.
Beff (e/acc)@beffjezos
People don't understand that the work will expand to fill the available capacity. We are simply going to do more and produce way more value with less input work. The economic Doomers are hypnotized by the finite work / finite sum fallacy.
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@xolotltolox @BachmannRudi @psybertron The US exports dollars, language and culture, and somehow gets by very well.
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I think Europe should be proud not to be producing Elon Musks.
James Pethokoukis ⏩️⤴️@JimPethokoukis
'Why Europe Produces Nobel Prize Winners but Not Elon Musks' @SSRN
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Why determinism is compatible with free will:
No one can predict your decisions without creating a perfect simulation of you that would itself exercise the free will required to make those decisions.
~Conjecture Institute Fellow @maria__violaris
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Some of us understand the labor theory of value just perfectly. It is statists in the form of Marxists like @BladeoftheS , who don't understand reality, reason, morality, individual rights, or basic economics.
Profit is not stolen labor. It is the return on judgment, risk, and capital that made the work possible in the first place. The man who identified the opportunity, raised the funds, organized the enterprise, and bore the loss if it failed didn't "do no work." He did the work that made all other work possible.
Marx's error is epistemological before it is economic. He treats physical labor as the source of value while ignoring the mind that directs it. A ditch dug in the wrong place has negative value. Labor without thought is not productivity. It is motion.
"Split it among the workers" assumes the enterprise creates itself, the market appears by magic, and risk carries no cost.
It doesn't. Someone paid for that. Someone gambled on it. That someone is owed his return.
Without that someone you wouldn't be able to post this gibberish.
BladeoftheSun@BladeoftheS
People don't understand Marx's theory of Labour so here it is. In short, there should be no profit for people who don't do any work. It should all be split among the workers. You would think Capitalists would love that. But of course they hate it.
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@BladeoftheS It’s also as close as you’ll get to an economic theory that has been flat out falsified on purely logical grounds.
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People don't understand Marx's theory of Labour so here it is.
In short, there should be no profit for people who don't do any work.
It should all be split among the workers.
You would think Capitalists would love that.
But of course they hate it.
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@xolotltolox @BachmannRudi @psybertron Europe exports luxury items, high skilled people and regulations.
That’s about it.
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@NormalDenizen @BachmannRudi @psybertron Europe produces more than america, america has to import everything even slightly complicated. Weapons are the onl, thing the, are able to manufacture at a world level
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@CoggleMaggie @steveMmattison @BachmannRudi @psybertron «oh so typical to bring up the rapes. Let’s talk about something else»
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@steveMmattison @BachmannRudi @NormalDenizen @psybertron Having to drag up a 16yr old, much repeated atrocity, just for snark, is pathetically juvenile, especially considering your current President is a convicted Felon & rapist, but got voted in twice.
Being mates with the 🌍 most notorious paedophile didn't seem to matter at all.
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@JrgenHuber7 @DavidDeutschOxf @drhingram Yeah, but only because a lot of children would do much better.
«Levelers» work primarily by restricting those that would otherwise do well.
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@DavidDeutschOxf @drhingram 'Schools should not try to be a "socio-economic leveller"'
Aren't they automatically? If you abolished state-funded schools tomorrow, social inequality would rise on short notice.
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School uniforms are a socio-economic leveller. No matter the parent’s financial situation, the child goes to school in the same clothes as his/her peers. Surely allowing tracksuits will lead to a designer fashion show and the ridicule and bullying of poorer kids?
Daily Mail@DailyMail
Children should be allowed to wear tracksuits in class to make school uniform 'more inclusive', MPs say trib.al/iFPfWl6
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@NormalDenizen commnote says it doesn’t even replicate, which is surprising
depressed people can’t even get a break when researchers design a test specifically to flatter their delusions
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