Ian Glendinning

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Ian Glendinning

@psybertron

How do we know? Keeping "Science" Honest. Retweet = Freethought. https://t.co/jfEZzDLVH9 https://t.co/IdzJTqJXie

Marske-by-the-Sea, UK Katılım Ocak 2009
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Ian Glendinning
Ian Glendinning@psybertron·
3 strikes and you're out. If you're looking for an "argument" I have rules. psybertron.org/rules-of-rheto… If after 3 exchanges I consider you to be arguing in bad faith - strawmen, whataboutery, ignoring actual content, etc - I routinely block. Life's too short😎
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Jostein Hauge
Jostein Hauge@haugejostein·
This is wild. People in *every single one* of the top US allies now think it's better to depend on China than the US. The global balance of power is clearly tilting away from the US and toward China.
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Mark Cockerton
Mark Cockerton@CockertonMark·
Repost if you’d like to see the return of traditional British values. Things like tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs. Politeness. A sense of fair play. Mutual respect. Humour and wit. Kindness and generosity. Fairness. Sportsmanship. Anti-fascism. Inclusivity.
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Ian Glendinning@psybertron·
Obviously. That's the point of everything I've written on it. We are a secular / free / democracy - one that supports the UN Freedoms of Expression and Thought, including religious belief and none. Any religious sub-culture practices must meet the same cultural criteria as the host society. psybertron.org/archives/20736
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Ian Glendinning
Ian Glendinning@psybertron·
@UKRegulator @CockertonMark Ban? No. Limit them - where, when, timing, how often, how loud, what circumstances, what precedents, etc - Yes. Normal sensible stuff free secular democracies agree every day.
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Ian Glendinning
Ian Glendinning@psybertron·
@magoniareview I understand. "Constitutionally" Britain is open to flexible interpretations, precedent, case-law, etc as to where Christianity fits everyday secular / political life, before we get to any more theocratic religions :-) (Several other posts / threads now.)
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thePelican
thePelican@magoniareview·
@psybertron Like it or not (and I'm not enthusiastic about it) Britain is constitutionally a Christian country. Fortunately it one which makes considerable concessions to other religions. However some religions take it a bit too far.
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Ian Glendinning
Ian Glendinning@psybertron·
"An abuse of liberalism"? - Agreed - all freedoms run on rails and have limitations to be respected in a free democracy. "A Christian Country"? No - As a secular society with a cultural Christian heritage, the "establishment" of even the Christian church is only at key ceremonial levels, not at general public and practical government levels. (We are not a theocracy of any one or combination of organised religions. Religious belief is a matter of private faith.) psybertron.org/archives/20736
Danny Kruger@danny__kruger

Nick Timothy and Nigel Farage are right, and Sadiq Khan and Keir Starmer are wrong. Small groups of people, of whatever religion, praying in public places is fine. And as a Christian country we should allow a special privilege for churches to lead services in our national spaces, like the Palm Sunday celebration that happens in Trafalgar Square. What we don't want is mass ritual observances intended to claim the civic realm for another religion, or assert the domination of another culture over our own Christian traditions. What happens in our national spaces is not neutral. People use Trafalgar Square, for celebrations and demonstrations, to make a point about the kind of country they want us to be. The Palm Sunday pageant reminds us of who we are - not as individuals (many or most of us don't identify as Christians at all) but as a national community, with the roots of our institutions in the ground of the Bible and our most solemn communal moments, from coronations to funerals, mediated through the liturgies of the Church. A mass Adhan held there, or in any town square, is making a different point: that Britain is not a Christian country, and that - inshallah - one day it shall be Muslim. This is unacceptable to the British public and indeed incompatible with our constitution. As ever with these debates, the issue is partly one of kind and partly one of degree. There is an issue with Islam itself as a religion which in most interpretations does not admit of pluralism or freedom of conscience, and therefore is inherently aggrandising, including over territory. But with a bit of confidence and a bit of toleration we could handle that - if it were not for the issue of degree. It is the scale of Islam in Britain, and the ambition of its leaders for greater scale, that makes the problem. The numbers of people who assembled for the adhan in Trafalgar Square, clearly and openly claiming the territory for a faith with no connection (indeed, with strong doctrinal disagreement) with the model of Western liberal democracy that Britain has developed and exported to the world - that is the problem. The numbers, whether everyone there understood it this way or not (and I suspect many did), convey an explicit threat to the foundations of our country. Being relaxed about other people's religion is a good thing, a very British thing. I don't mind modern druids dancing around Stonehenge in my constituency (arguably, though the historicity is tenuous, they have a claim to the place). I don't mind small groups of Hindus or Buddhists or Muslims demonstrating the reality of Britain's religious toleration by worshiping in Trafalgar Square. But let's not kid ourselves about this adhan, or pretend that we're just seeing another harmless expression of Britain's religious diversity. We are seeing an abuse of liberalism, led by people who are not themselves liberal; or - let us imagine they are acting in good faith - who are themselves deceived about what they are doing. It should not happen again. And it would be good to hear the Church of England say so.

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Capel Lofft@CapelLofft·
It's utterly bizarre to suggest that we have to think about all religions precisely the same despite very real differences between them. When someone tries to or does commit mass terroristic murder on British shores in the name of Guru Nanak or Buddha or Moses, then let me know.
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Acyn@Acyn·
Gomez: You said the only person who determine if it’s an imminent threat is the president. Do you stand by that statement? Gabbard: I do Gomez: Director Ratcliffe, do you agree with that? Ratcliffe: The president makes that decision Gomez: Why do you guys even have jobs?
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Nick Bryant
Nick Bryant@NickBryantNY·
"The time has come to alter the nomenclature of this conflict. The Iran war' does not adequately encompass its geographic or economic reach. It is not a world war, but it is a globalised war." My latest at my substack History Never Ended. open.substack.com/pub/historynev…
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Ed Davey
Ed Davey@EdwardJDavey·
Why are we rewarding Donald Trump with a state visit from our King? His illegal war is driving up costs for British families and he is belittling our country and insulting our troops. Cancel the visit.
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Ian Glendinning
Ian Glendinning@psybertron·
Big fan of Lily, but I do worry about her. Looking unnecessarily thin again?
NME@NME

Watch @lilyallen unveil original ‘West End Girl’ painting at London’s National Portrait Gallery (@NPGLondon) The piece by Nieves González reflects "strength, power, vulnerability, determination and confusion", and is now on public display for one year nme.com/news/music/wat…

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Robert E Kelly
Robert E Kelly@Robert_E_Kelly·
Distrust of the US this bad👇will eventually hit the bond market. I wonder if Trump & co. get that. Foreigners aren’t going to keep lending to us if they think we’re wildly irresponsible, unpredictable, governed by clowns and imperialists, and so on.
Jostein Hauge@haugejostein

This is wild. People in *every single one* of the top US allies now think it's better to depend on China than the US. The global balance of power is clearly tilting away from the US and toward China.

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Joni Askola
Joni Askola@joni_askola·
US tech billionaires spent the last few years making a strong case against extreme wealth. Their public meltdowns and political meddling illustrate that concentrating billions in the hands of unaccountable individuals poses a significant systemic risk
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