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@aggressive2hu

Touhou unenthusiast. #1 ZUN hater. The miserable Mamizou guy. Video game masochist. Blinded by hatred.

شامل ہوئے Haziran 2020
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
There's just something really funny over the fact that it's this specific EoSD remake that finally pushed a few members in JP to say ZUN is selling out. Aren't they rather too late to say that after his constant appearances on Lost Word's puppet shows? I just don't get it.
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@cryofantasia @eeekgoawayidiot To be fair, it's not that I think the remake has any real risk of art AI, but the dev's interest in neural networks made me speculate on how AI assisted coding is popular nowadays. But, I'm happy to be called a little reasonable.
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Cryofreeze 🔻@cryofantasia·
Touhou fans are so funny yall moved on from the Touhou 20 AI controversy so easily after shifting the goalpost a million times but yalls now undergoing psychosis because apparently too much detail = AI
🌠 Dreamy Lounge 🌠 (comms open)@klabisot

@viderchia I wish I were wrong, but I'm seeing some things that look like upscaler artifacts, and unlikely to have been made intentionally by humans. Maybe it's just me, I dunno… Those are the things I can really point to, some strange pixels that might've been enhanced by an upscaler

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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@eeekgoawayidiot @cryofantasia Don't mind it then I was also posting asking about the head dev's neural network, and some people misconstrued it as fearmongering, so I wanted to know.
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@cryofantasia Not just 20, but 19 has undisclosed suspicious backgrounds, but everyone would rather nitpick a real doujin artist to death instead of properly taking ZUN to task for more egregious examples. It's really all performative.
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@spaztron64 LLMs aren't really AI according to metrics I see, but people refer it to such anyway, and waifu2x seems to functionally do what a modern LLM upscale command would but on a smaller scale with limited data. I'm mostly just trying to get an explanation in the first place, though.
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spaztron64 @ Otomata Labs
@aggressive2hu DCNNs like waifu2x have been around for a very long time. A neural network does not automatically equal an "AI". It's really just a self-refining mathematical algorithm in practice.
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
I don't know how to feel about the lead programmer being a guy happily advertising his involvement with an AI (neural network) picture converter. Is this where the AI upscaling accusations about the portraits are coming from after all? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@spaztron64 It just seems to contextually refer to the sprite art, and the Japanese are weird about stuff like art hosting sites sometimes, so maybe he wanted to provide the references directly? But, admittedly, I could be way too charitable right now when he's not exactly honest.
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spaztron64 @ Otomata Labs
@aggressive2hu That would be an even sillier case, because extracted graphics are anything but difficult to find on the internet. I don't give the benefit of doubt to habitual liars, so admittedly I am biased towards a specific interpretation.
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spaztron64 @ Otomata Labs
The very first thing I said in chats after new EoSD was announced is that I was 80% sure it was just a fork of the GensokyoClub decomp, because it's the most economically sound decision. Nobody believed me. Sometimes intuition just works, y'know.
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@spaztron64 I'm getting that it's about the art and not the code, myself, but maybe I'm off...?
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spaztron64 @ Otomata Labs
What the Jyunya guy and ZUN said here is a LIE, and I immediately called it out as such, because it flies in the face of ZUN's earlier statements over many many years how the sources of all pre-MoF games were lost for good. x.com/tara_touhou/st…
またら@tara_touhou

神主「僕が紅魔郷のバックアップを見つけてきて、そこから全身の立ち絵を……」 JYUNYA「それ一か月くらいまえに欲しかった奴ですね」

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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@Punished_4AGE Nothing, but there's more than one guy doing it, and they might be less drunk. It would also shut their group down quickly since people only give ZUN the pass for spaghetti coding.
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@Punished_4AGE Too bad mainline probably won't get this treatment, and we'll continue getting some socially woke statement wrapped in a buggy mess and genned bgs
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@Punished_4AGE between the remake that does all the things I wanted ZUN to consider doing for once in his life or AI 20, well I'm gonna go eat EoSD slop om nom nom nyom
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hxndr 2@hxndr2·
modern zun style is genuinely so ugly compared to his older style
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@suddendesu @spaztron64 It's not about feeling sorry for me, but mainly I think there are a lot of people whose eyes go wide at that much money when it's really life changing, so it's closer to the bank debt amount in my view at least. It's a lot just for the privilege to play abandonware legally.
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SUDDENDESU@suddendesu·
@aggressive2hu @spaztron64 I am sorry to hear that and wish you the best. It *is* certainly ridiculously expensive and I sure as heck ain’t paying it for some Touhou disks…. But there are certain other retro game artifacts I would certainly shell out like that for… >_>
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@suddendesu @spaztron64 I could afford medication for my crippling genetic disease for a few years with 10k 😳 sorry, that's my poorness speaking
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SUDDENDESU@suddendesu·
@spaztron64 @aggressive2hu I’m not disagreeing with you in principle but 1.5m yen is less than $10k USD, that’s hardly “serious bank debt”
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@realesthosay tbf, not really when you only need to screencap the scores and stats screens post 1cc
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hosayaka
hosayaka@realesthosay·
I am a MASSIVE touhou fan and i have cleared every game in the series and beaten multiple extras, I have read countless doujins and played so many fan games and official spin offs
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@MARlOMASTA64 @lexen221 I saw someone suggest it's post-20 AI paranoia, but I didn't even see that many people who weren't staunchly defending that decision back then, so why now?
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MarioMasta64@MARlOMASTA64·
@aggressive2hu @lexen221 best idea i have for why yea this + ik alot of people like to hate on eosd because its the popular one that most media focuses on instead of their fave (maybe a bit) but more likely the first thing
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Mamizoo@aggressive2hu·
@MARlOMASTA64 @lexen221 I didn't think you were saying they're deffo using it, but I did think after reading your tweet that it was the reason people have this accusation in the first place. But, maybe there isn't as much correlation as we thought.
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MarioMasta64@MARlOMASTA64·
@aggressive2hu @lexen221 im not saying that theyre using it just that the person who works on it also creared that and thats likely why these rumors are spreading
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