@Al0hasnakbar @_sn_n notice how he said conservative and not republican? There are people alive today who were alive to support Jim Crow. They vote Republican now, sorry to break that news to you
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@_sn_n Wait, it was the democrats that voted against civil rights for blacks. Learn your history cracker!
Now you're all sad because black people are waking up and leaving the democrat plantation in droves
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@lamonte_vince @LesBowen How stupid do you have to be to think that a supreme court decision regarding race based gerrymanders has nothing to do with race
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@LesBowen You think this kind of take makes you feel superior… creating a racial issue where there is none and feigning outrage about it…. It does not make you appear superior it makes you look like a self absorbed fool…
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@TwitCensors @SADDAY_EVERYDAY @JonnyAtTheShore @DrewSav there aren’t enough asian-americans in most states to warrant that, but there would be a good reason to have a Latino district if you could guess partisanship 90% based on race alone in said state
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Memphis gave Kamala Harris 75% of the vote. They don't want a Republican representing them in Congress.
John Rose@JohnRoseforTN
Memphis deserves Republican representation in Congress. Today’s Supreme Court ruling paves the way for that. I trust our legislative leaders will move quickly to make this a reality. As Governor, I will be prepared to lead on this effort.
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@SeminoleScout7 @thebenfromMI @squiglybigly69 @BeshearStan the fact that the republican maps just cut the biggest cities into pieces to dissolve their populations into republican districts just means that the Red way of gerrymandering looks nicer while having the same result
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@thebenfromMI @squiglybigly69 @BeshearStan Lol yeah. That's retarded. Anybody who lives in Illinois knows that far more than 5 seats are gerrymandered.
As far as gerrymandering goes in general, Texas will be the only conservative state with an insane looking map.
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Now that the worst has come and Section 2 of the VRA is gutted, Dem trifectas in safe blue states need to start fighting back and push these maps immediately
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@liliceberg1of1 @Hypermav77 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias Both sides have done this literally forever it’s besides the point. Let’s just switch to a parliamentary system they’re better anyway
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Today's VRA decision is intellectually dishonest and wrong. The conservatives basically said: Black people can vote for their preferred candidates, as long as they prefer the right candidates -- which will be Republicans.
An absolutely mockery of the law and stain on the court.
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@Hypermav77 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias I’m sure you feel very righteous about your side of the fence. Remind me why Florida wants to change its map so that 57% of the voters get 85% of the seats? And Tennessee and Missouri and Ohio and North Carolina?
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@ndeutsch23 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias Blue states with ZERO Republican House seats:
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Vermont
New Hampshire
Hawaii
New Mexico
Connecticut
Delaware
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@PfPopulist @CameronCorduroy @CenTexLib Why should 100,000 hicks get two districts and 1 million urbanites get one? Because they live closer together?
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@CameronCorduroy @CenTexLib Good question, why do you Libs want to split Madison and Milwaukee in Wisconsin's maps
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hey man quick question, how come every major city is located right on the corners of these districts?
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Potential Republican gerrymandering vs Democrat gerrymandering is hilarious.
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@Hypermav77 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias I live in the Northeast with a Republican House Rep. Republicans control the entire federal government. Feel free to pass a nationwide gerrymandering ban any time you feel like.
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@ndeutsch23 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias Have you looked at the northeast states. Do you think the GOP (which there are many that live there) have any representation at all? No they don't. Always hypocrites on the left.
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@Hypermav77 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias Dissolving a majority black district into several majority white districts is perpetuating race based political power, just for white people now, who already hold a majority of the power.
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@ndeutsch23 @liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @marceelias There is no logic behind the color of skin making a voting district except for folks that want to perpetuate the race industry and political power.
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@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias The maps might look nicer, but the intended result is to lower the proportion of black representatives in a ~33% black state from 1/3 to 1/6. I suppose we just have a fundamental disagreement on what fairness is
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@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias They will draw maps that don’t take race into consideration. You can’t possibly look at Louisiana’s current map next to a proposed map and say the current one looks more fair
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@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias The only way this logic holds is if you pretend that southern states are going to draw maps that actually ignore race, but they won’t, because they never do. They will draw maps explicitly to diminish the voting power of black people.
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@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias The issue being that the government isn’t allowed to use race as a tool to classify individuals, as established in the interpretation of the 14th amendments equal protection clause
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@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias And in fact, given that your reasoning is that they’ll still be able to vote, why do you care about gerrymandering at all? The white people in those states who are being discriminated against still get to vote as things stand, so what’s the issue?
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@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias I honestly want to believe you’re someone who is well meaning but idk how to explain to you that redrawing the maps to replace black politicians with white one is discrimination. It’s just the kind you’re fine with because it doesn’t affect you
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@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Outside of all the obvious ways in which black people, on average, have worse access to economic resources and are treated worse on personal levels, YOU WANT TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO HAVE REPRESENTATION IN HIGHER OFFICE.
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@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias How are they treated differently than other citizens, outside of having special racially gerrymandered districts for themselves
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@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Because we live in the real world and they aren’t treated like any other citizen. and your desired result doesn’t treat them like any other citizen. It treats them like people who need to be denied higher office because they’re not on your team.
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@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Why do black people have a right to their own racially gerrymandered districts? Why can’t they be treated like any other citizen?
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@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias In a way so that black people cannot get representation, yes. Are you ignoring this fact because it makes you feel bad or because you don’t actually care?
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@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias They’re going to explicitly split up the unconstitutional racial gerrymanders because they’re unconstitutional
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@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Well that aren’t going to do that. They are going to explicitly split up black voting populations so that more white conservatives get into higher office. You don’t have to pretend like you don’t prefer that outcome anyway by hiding behind your 1990’s race blindness
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@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias The only reason there are black majority districts is because they unconstitutionally gerrymandered their maps to do so. To revert this, we must not consider racial demographics when drawing maps.
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@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias I’m glad that you’ve evolved past the rest of us, but that’s not how this works. If you redraw the maps TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO BLACK REPRESENTATION IN CONGRESS you are thinking about race when you are drawing the maps
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@ndeutsch23 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias I don’t think the racial makeup of a proposed district should be considered at all!
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@liliceberg1of1 @Aquaflare387 @Hypermav77 @marceelias Gerrymandering is not performed nation wide, it’s performed state wide. You’re mad that the 40% of black people in certain states aren’t allowed to be segmented into 10 different districts to ensure conservative whites have all the power, because it doesn’t help your side win
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@Aquaflare387 @ndeutsch23 @Hypermav77 @marceelias I hope you know you sound ridiculous. Our country is only ~60% white and whites are pretty much split down the middle on right/left. You’re mad because you can’t racially gerrymandering for the 13% who votes 90% democrat, because it helps your side win
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