N°1 Velvetomo fan
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N°1 Velvetomo fan
@EllechugaRandom
My superpower is existing and desisting || I think I usually have very humanitarian and reasonable opinions || Eng/Es
Cama Tham gia Mart 2022
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@InverseGps Most of them see themselves winning as the ultimate goal, not the most amount of people surviving
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have red pressers ever considered that a 50% is easier to achieve than 100%?
Maririn~@TopGyaru
Blue button arguments be like: "But what if" "But what if" "But what if" "But what if" Red arguments be like: "Press the red button and you win"
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@TheDiadochi @chaitinsgoose well, the mere reason blue being lethal even is on the table is due to the possibility of red winning, which is dependant on people pressing red, although the framing is different the actions that lead to both results are the same
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@EllechugaRandom @chaitinsgoose Ah. I feel like this framing relinquishes accountability for blue and their autonomy, readily blaming others for their own decisions. In this situation I vote A, but originally I vote red.
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@TheDiadochi @chaitinsgoose in the framing, the only way voters of A die, is if people actively vote for B
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@EllechugaRandom @chaitinsgoose Then A would have to kill their own voters if they lost.
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@DiegoZyth I've noticed most red pushers see the ultimate goal as THEM surviving while most blue voters see it as the biggest amount of people doing so
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@EllechugaRandom @Kalejowy You’re just stupid bro. Take the L and move and and try again next time
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@MilanoTruffles *taps the sign* the mere factor that at least one person could press blue should be enough to make a moral decision

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Oh my god. The level of reading comprehension is lower than I expected. If everyone chooses red, everyone lives. There is no dilemma.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@aviantb1000 @Kalejowy "somewhere else" as in somehwere else where those determining factors can appear again, which is often in the same situation but at a different time/place?? how is this a question??? just keep reading
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@EllechugaRandom @Kalejowy You fucked up right here. Because why would I take a pattern of something that’s related to this one certain topic, then try and apply it to everything? That’s obviously stupid. Again, discernment. You’re stupid

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@TheDiadochi @chaitinsgoose you understand that in this framing of the question candidate A is the blue button right?
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@chaitinsgoose You mean if Candidate A wins, nothing happens.
And if candidate B loses, he kills all those who voted for B.
Right?
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@aviantb1000 @Kalejowy I'm begging of you to PLEASE read this fully, i've gone over what im trying to convey VERY slowly so you can understand.

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@EllechugaRandom @Kalejowy You’re comparing ice cream sales and shark attacks. Like wtf are you doing? I understand you gotta have a little bit of common sense, a little bit of discernment, but you’re clearly lacking those because you’re stupid.
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@aviantb1000 @Kalejowy You claimed that using basic patter recognition for complex correlated issues is enough to make an asesment, I replied with a graph that shows that basing criteria on correlated things instead of searching for a CAUSAL relation can lead to misleading results. How is this hard?
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@EllechugaRandom @Kalejowy What in fuck are you even talking about?😂 that made absolutely no sense at all what so ever lol. You’re stupid
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@aviantb1000 @Kalejowy If i just "used my fucking eyes" as you said, i could now claim that ice cream causes shark attacks on people since both graphs overlap, fully ignoring EVERY OTHER FACTOR that should be taken into account in data analysis, this isn't rocket science dude

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@EllechugaRandom @Kalejowy “According to the data🤓”😂😂 use your fucking eyeballs dumbass
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@JBinksie9621 @Kalejowy Correlation doesn't mean causality
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@Kalejowy Racist is a sign of higher intelligence. Check out Japan.
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@rugervonkrauser @Reodagamer64 @Kalejowy Its almost as if systematically empobrished countries which lack the resources for proper education do worse in euro-centrically designed IQ tests
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@James65782943 @Kalejowy just "recognizing patterns" isn't enough in data analysis, or would you say ice cream provokes shark deaths?
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@DAYMAN1293073 @BettysNetty @Kalejowy Bro im not even religious but you ain't seeing the pearly gates while calling other humans slurs 😭🙏
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@BettysNetty @Kalejowy Pope doesnt talk to you talking to the pope doesnt mean your catholic hahaha fuckin ĵééť youre a filthy indian
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@soylentchadHH @Kalejowy It's almost as if empobrished countries have a worse education system that leads to worse results in IQ tests
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@aviantb1000 @Kalejowy "Pattern recognition" isn't enough in data analysis
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@ironyisabich @TheEbonyMaw By that same logic we could say that since blue only becomes lethal ONLY if people vote red, pressing red is the only way people die
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@TheEbonyMaw Nothing bad happens if everyone presses the red button but the way the question is set up seems like you HAVE to press blue or else people will die
Pressing blue is the only way people die
Handy chart stolen from someone in the OP replies

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I have opinions on the new red/blue button debate. I interpret it as a test of whether or not you are in a high trust or low trust environment.
Choosing the red button guarantees your own safety but also ensures people will die because there is invariably going to be people who will vote blue for whatever reason.
But choosing the blue button is only a viable option IF you are in a high trust environment.
The blue/red button question, in my opinion, is more of a question of “do you trust the group you’re in?”
Pure altruism & trust vs. guaranteed self-preservation
So it depends on the group. All other things being equal, I don’t particularly want blue voters to die, so I’d ideally vote blue. But I’m not going to stake my life on that if the group I’m in is particularly untrustworthy. So again… it depends on the group.
If I was in a situation where all the other voters were my closest friends & family, obviously I would choose blue.
But if I’m in a group of people who don’t know each other and are openly hostile to each other, I am pressing red.

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