
Mac Wolf
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Mac Wolf
@Medicfox
America🇺🇸, Operation Iraqi Freedom Wounded Veteran, Retired US Army.
Eastern Pennsylvania Tham gia Mayıs 2009
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SLS/Orion has been in trouble since Congress mandated it use 1970s tech to save jobs and that goes all the way back to 2011. Also, a few of it's systems from life support to the heat shield are in question. I can say for a fact that if SLS/Orion did not cost 4.2 Bn per flight and cost less like around 200 to 500 million per flight. NASA would not put crew on flight 2, but NASA is forced to because, they only have 5 shots at it with SLS.
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SLS is officially in dire straits.
Sawyer Merritt@SawyerMerritt
NEWS: NASA is planning a bigger @SpaceX Moon mission role using Starship, in a massive blow to Boeing. With the new proposal, Boeing's SLS would no longer be used to boost Orion close to the moon. Instead, Starship and Orion would dock in Earth orbit, giving Starship the pivotal role of propelling the capsule to the moon’s orbit, before taking astronauts down to the surface. bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
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I'm not talking about every starship flight, because, that's something else. See this is the problem. reactionary is not the way to go. We are talking about logistics here and it's not like on the Earth where you have 500 different options for next day. It's 3 to 7 days depending on How fast the orbiter or lander is going to the Lunar orbit.
Which means planning and having back up plans are key. This whole learned *on*the*Moon*itself* is doomed to fail. I will say that. Because, everyone is betting on rapid fire orbiters and landers and that might not happen. Because, failures will happen and then backup plans, and backups, because, there is no do overs. IF things fail and supplies Stop. it's mission over or worse loss of crew and the first is the best case outcome. The second is straight failure, and failure is unacceptable.
“Planning ahead isn’t pessimistic. It’s how we keep crews alive and the base able to keep building. But, that is how the US Army taught me to think. See issues before they are issues and coming up with plans in case those issues happen. NASA and the US Aerospace lacks and does not have a heavy ground logistics option. Will it be needed right away? No, but it will be by 2035 if not 2032.
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Mac, ... It is likely that a large part of what you have asked for must be learned *on*the*Moon*itself*. As I said, ... engineering exploration.
If you think that the squeals about each Starship flight that does not go all the way to Mars and back are bothersome, then you have'nt heard anything yet!
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NASA may be handing SpaceX the keys to the Moon!!!
According to a Bloomberg article just posted today, instead of Boeing’s SLS rocket doing the heavy lifting, Starship could now dock with Orion in Earth orbit and take astronauts all the way to the lunar surface. Big win for SpaceX, bad news for Boeing, & a major shake-up for Artemis III. 🌕🚀
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@AndyKauffman @danaen803 @DrPhiltill @grok The hauling water part of the conversation has passed. I do not think it has. However, I agree on the orbital cameras. But, I think there will be a few Space Stations and orbital fuel depos in Lunar orbit.
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@Medicfox @danaen803 @DrPhiltill @grok You might be misunderstanding me. I'm pointing more to surface improvements, orbital cameras used to pinpoint landing locations, etc. The hauling water part of the conversation has passed. 🙂
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This has been my complaint since I first read the Artemis plan. You need to set up a large base of operations, Gateway only passed Artemis Base Camp once every 2 weeks for rescue and on the Mars portion 2x Crew for 30 Sol with 3x 25T payloads to the Martian Surface. You need a actual Base to work from and able to conduct rescue operations locally for Explorers on the surface. Complete with full Medical Facilities so Medical Emergencies can be handled without a 3 day - 2 year wait for an operation. The safety of Marius Hills Lava Tubes on the Moon and Erebus Montes (EM-16) on Mars to establish a PP Safety Zone IAW @dr_hendrix NASEM-COPP plan. @rookisaacman @DrPhiltill @ltelkins @DavaExplorer @shawnapandya
futurism.com/space/nasa-oig…
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Well, it's not the design of the base, It's logistics, One rovers can only move a select amount of cargo. Bulky, over sized and bulk liquid Rovers can not handle. No, one is talking about the last mile of the logistics chain. It starts on Earth and ends at the lunar base. So, a lander land and rovers and crew members have to go out to it and then move said cargo back to the base. That is the main question.
Now, there is only So, much a team of 4 to 6 can physically do. Robots will help, However, they might not be able to handle what you think they can. Also, radiation and computer tech does not mix well. Computer tech after a while will fail. It's all about the logistics and How things move and Not NASA's Float system nor DARPA's railroad system can go out to the landing zone/Pads. Like I said before Getting to the moon is the easy part. Staying there is the hard part and getting to the moon is not easy.
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Then, you are wanting the details of how the base will be built? I cannot provide that. There are already conceptual proposals to land some versions of the Starship HLS Landers, and lay them on their sides. It is civil engineering needed to build a base, ... and *any* civil engineering project is *massively* site-specific.
We will have to wait and see which techniques are selected for In Situ Resource Utilization and other activities. There are a number of possibilities. I would suppose that making LOX comes first, ... since that is most of the propellant, and directly available from regolith oxides. You can also use that as coolant in a heat exchanger, to keep the Methane liquid.
As to the usefulness of robots, I believe that will grow fastest once they are on the lunar surface. We will need to learn how fast they can work in 1/6th gee, and how quickly their mechanisms are abraded by lunar dust. The first 5 landings will be learning how humans and robots work together more than anything else. Lunar Landings, now to 2032, are *not* what they were in 1972. They are much more engineering exploration.
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@NASASpaceflight I think Gateway is dead or at least the mission has changed.
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ESA just published a boilerplate "Gateway blueprint" page on their site and mailed it to their media list.
Not sure that's still happening, however.
#msdynmkt_trackingcontext=d9760013-6d85-4779-adda-31ab69710300" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">esa.int/ESA_Multimedia…
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IF they can not speak or under stand English. How can they read road sighs and talk to people when needed. As per 49 CFR § 391.11(b)(2) All Drivers are required to read speak and understand English. The United States is an English speaking nation and it is about safety. Because IF there is a crash. They need to be able to speak in English.
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According to Mr. Hank Johnson Jr., the requirement that truck drivers speak/read English "has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with shutting out qualified drivers."
He refers to Delilah's Law as an "Anti-worker bill."
I am anti-push American truck drivers and companies out of the industry, while bending over backwards to make sure the industry is flooded with foreign companies and unqualified slave labor!!!!
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@aaliyahvtuber_ some Tattoos, Nose ring, attitude, demanding & thinking they need to be taken out to dinner every time.
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You are still thinking of singleton missions. No, I'm actually not. I'm thinking of how much a team of 4 to 6 personnel can handle over a work day and robotics can only handle so much and are limited of what roles they can do and How well they can do them. You can land all the ships you want, However, IF the team/Base can not handle those landers in time before they have to leave due to the boil off. That will start backing up cargo landers. Also, the last mile heavy logistics is still lacking. Rovers can only do So, much. As well as 4 to 6 personnel can only do So much as well.
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You are still thinking of singleton missions. That might work for the first flight, ... but to build a MoonBase will require Multi-ship squadrons, ... which SpaceX just happens to be already planning. As Oxygen extraction from regolith metal Oxides becomes productive, there will be continual base activity, because most from each ship will stay at the base. Plenty of robotic productivity, and plenty of humans when the robots are stumped.
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@NASAglenn @NASAArtemis @NASA What will be the next orbiter and launch system that will replace SLS/Orion and will it fill in NASA Gaps of lack of robotic arm and bulky cargo carrier. Which will be needed far more than anyone wants to say it.
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NASA is setting its sights on early April for the launch of Artemis II! 🌕
Four astronauts will venture around the Moon on a crucial test flight aboard the Orion spacecraft, helping pave the way for future deep space exploration missions.
Get to know a few more NASA Glenn employees who’ve supported @NASAArtemis ⬇️ 🧵

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@NASA_Technology @NASAArtemis What's NASA's plan to put a TDRES or other relay Satellite in Lunar orbit to help with coms and Data relay?
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The Orion Artemis II Optical Communications System (O2O) is preparing for launch! The O2O terminal will demonstrate laser communications during the @NASAArtemis II mission - showcasing the benefits laser communications can have for human spaceflight. Learn more: go.nasa.gov/3PzSj5X.
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Well, the question is what will replace SLS/Orion and what will be the next NASA's Heavy lift system. Cause, NASA needs it's own Heavy lift system. that can also, fill the gaps NASA has right now. No orbiter can handle Bulky payloads, No orbiter has a robotic arm. Can any active orbiter right now help build a space station?
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NASA needs a new Space Shuttle that can go to LLO. Just saying. Cause, I miss the Shuttle Pictures at the ISS. Just saying, a clean surface and a booster that has internal stuff can do the job. I have run the numbers and it works. Stage sept at 90KM and I did do a plan for the ETI it will take between 50 and 72 passes over 2 to 3 days to slow down from 11km/s Down to 7.8km/s. Just saying and it would give NASA a Heavy lift and direct to LLO from stage sept which No other orbiter can do. Also, sound proofing and foam beds. But, just saying.

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Can you spot the astronauts? 👩🚀👨🚀
The original solar arrays on the International Space Station have a 240 foot wingspan, towering over the crew at the base.
International Space Station@Space_Station
NASA astronauts Jessica Meir and Chris Williams work on installing a solar array modification kit outside the International Space Station. Watch live... nasa.gov/live/
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@RedMarylandGoat @AngryCops @blckriflecoffee @DaleStarkA10 It's highly unlikely, but it has not done it as of yet and likely never will. But, IF it does. Oh, Oh, the F 22 will have some words to say.
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@Medicfox @AngryCops @blckriflecoffee @DaleStarkA10 So we don’t know for certain that it can’t hit a satellite in space.
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@JennyHPhoto @SuperclusterHQ Nice Picture, but I have to wonder what will replace SLS, because NASA needs their own reusable system.
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NASA’s SLS rocket inside the VAB ahead of tonight’s scheduled rollout to the pad after a successful Flight Readiness Review. The next launch attempt is currently scheduled for no earlier than April 1 at 6:24 p.m. ET.
Reporting for @SuperclusterHQ

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and non of them can drive or back up. BTW, I'm making money charging them 25 USD cash to put their trailers in the door. Shoot, After 5 times I tell them 25 bucks and I'll throw it in. Knock it out in 30 secs to a min and on to the next. It's gotten to that point. 70% of the drivers can not back up a trailer into a dock door.
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@Medicfox @boneheadtruckrs Fortunately where I'm at most of the towels are on their whatsapp group chats with their other relatives running loads or working smoke shops
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@Medicfox @AngryCops @blckriflecoffee @DaleStarkA10 I meant have they tried to get an A-10 to do that. I knew about the F-15 already, and the DDG is basically a mobile missile platform so it doing it isn’t nearly that impressive.
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@RedMarylandGoat @AngryCops @blckriflecoffee @DaleStarkA10 Yes, twice once by a F 15 in the 1970s and another by a DDG with in the last 5 years.
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@Medicfox @AngryCops @blckriflecoffee @DaleStarkA10 Have we tried to get it to hit a satellite in orbit?
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Your going to need another crawler pad for the orbiter and what will be asked of it to handle the required amount of flights. Also, What's your plans after SLS. Because, SLS/Orion can not do any more than what it's going to do in the next 1 to 5 years. A fully reusable system that can work with others, but also, handle the gaps NASA is dealing with now, No orbiter has a usable robotic arm, No bulky cargo ability. How are you going to build orbital support stations in LEO & LLO. Because, they are needed.
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Engineers are targeting 8 pm ET on Thursday, March 19, for rollout of Artemis II.
NASA’s crawler-transporter 2 will carry the 11-million-pound stack at about 1 mph along the four-mile route from the Vehicle Assembly Building at @NASAKennedy to the launch pad.

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