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@IgnibyteDev @bendee983 yeah I agree, but this gets to the core problem of testing: it's scientific rather than mathematical. When have you tested enough? When have you done enough experiments? It's great and probably better than not writing tests at all, but it comes with caveats.

e2e during the agent loops are solid. The agent should load the browser and check its work. Then once it’s verified it creates a playwright test for regression. Unit tests + architecture (phpstan, phpmd, phpcs), mutation testing, e2e and playwright will catch most failures during the build. They must be enforced though through hooks otherwise the agent will ignore them if they can.

Prove me wrong. I think the "unit tests is all you need" mentality is wrong. Here's why: Unit tests verify what the LLM-generated code should do, not what it shouldn't. The AI might hallucinate a bunch of nonsense code and functions that have nothing to do with the intent and goals of the application. The code will work perfectly fine but will also be sub-optimal. When it is a bottleneck function (something that runs thousands of times per second), you want it to be fully optimized. Every line of code matters. This is why I think whether AI writes the code or not, you should be able to review and uderstand it, at least the bottlenecks that can cause massive performance issues. Happy to be proven wrong, or share your experience if you've been able to address this.

@potetm literally every stupid thing everyone has written was thought to be better than the other stupid things beforehand

I've always found the idea of "tech debt" to be borderline ridiculous. it meant some programmer wrote and shipped code they didn't understand. that's just a (stupid) choice, not a shrewd calculation. until now. now tech debt is one of the realest things in software.

@ai_backend_engr @abolorreeeee @uthman_dev yeah my perspective is different. Where I work I am a sort of one man show. I work on my own projects, direct things with my "people", but otherwise stand back. I really hate working in teams to be honest.

@OhMeSoSorry @abolorreeeee @uthman_dev idea could spark from community conversations I guess, also makes you feel like you not alone Development is a teams work, maybe your perspective is different

You’d just go on Reddit and you’d see lots of devs are just too good!

@ai_backend_engr @abolorreeeee @uthman_dev why do you need a community? Read the docs. Write code. You can talk to an LLM about your code quality, best practices, etc. Use the socratic method.

@OhMeSoSorry @abolorreeeee @uthman_dev What Golang community would you recommend then

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@oriSomething @munawwarfiroz If you have to learn all the NaN rules it’s not simple lol

@munawwarfiroz I find JS simple. I just learned all the NaN rules

DHH: Programming language should read like poetry Me: Poetry is usually hard to understand A PL should have minimal and easy to use rules to remember. I guess this is why people find Lua simple.

@DevLeaderCa What the fuck are you talking about

Being a developer is 10% writing code … .. . and 90% searching StackOverflow for what you just wrote.

@Mayamythos I use both in a workflow

Which is best for coding Claude or Codex???

@aminnnn_09 youtu.be/SxdOUGdseq4?is… There is also a Clojure documentary on YouTube that was created recently.

@OhMeSoSorry Never heard of it, what's this if you could talk about it a bit

When was the last time a new programming language dropped? feels like we stopped caring. everyone's just chasing AI models now. Do you even miss new languages?

@htmx_org Mmmm my singleton is so static right now

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@MrsCMFrancis Eat protein

Ok I’m slowly dipping my toes in the calorie deficit for fat lose and muscle gain waters. Hit me with your best foods that up protein in your day. I tracked for a week and I already get about 100-110 grams a day but I’d like to up that to 150

@htmx_org @WarrenInTheBuff You probably mean multitons

@WarrenInTheBuff oh yeah? name all of them

@MuwaffaqBadawi I’ve been writing clojure lately so what’s a loop

As a .NET C# software engineer and upcoming software architecture I would like to state that loops are the worst thing in software design and you can't change my mind

@DanielSmidstrup my backup plan is to produce more software at work

Developers, what’s your "backup plan" now that AI writes better code than you?

@caps_raunak idk about you guys but I just got a 40k/year raise because I finished a bunch of projects with fable :D

Bro I'm so fucking sick of pretending this is normal. AI was trained on Stack Overflow answers written by developers who got zero dollars and zero credit, and now those same developers are losing their jobs to the thing their free labor built. We built the rope. They just used it.

@htmx_org can't tell if they are trolling or not

well you can tell by the way i use my walk i'm a ladies man no time to talk

@htmx_org @psswordprotectd Im on to your game. Two wrongs don’t make a right But 3 Lefts do.

@psswordprotectd wrong

with the advent of mass AI code generation a new skill, rare among software developers historically, will become increasingly valuable: wisdom