@orthogonal_j @surplustakes The Peter Principle strikes again.
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Starvecrow
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@niall_gooch @surplustakes Yeah. It speaks to how long careers can be these days. It's genuinely impressive for him to have had basically elite three elite careers and reached the very top in each of them.
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The return of various Blair-era apparatchiks - Powell, Barber, D Miliband, Mandelson, the surely recently invented "Liz Lloyd" - highlights just how old Starmer is. He was 35 in '97, he could have been an undistinguised New Labour cabinet figure from the beginning
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A Labour MP’s describing tax receipts spent on welfare, NHS and schools as a “loss” and you’re blackpilling?
Josh Fenton-Glynn MP@JoshFG
Reminder: the loss on the oil rights Thatcher sold was around £500bn
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Oh god.
Oh god no.
Oh please god no.
Oh lord in your mercy, hear my prayer.
No.
Please don’t let him “set out his values & convictions”.
Not publicly. Not so we have to see & hear it. Not again.
Please make it stop.
For the love of baby Jesu…
Politics UK@PolitlcsUK
🚨 WATCH: Keir Starmer says he will set out his "values and convictions" that drive him as PM on Monday "The hope wasn't there enough in the first two years of this Government. That's why it's important for me now to set out where hope resides"
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@ursine_meeting I’ve been trying to work out what all the Restore Britain types reminded me of - now i realise, it’s these Paul Mason screeds - strategy papers for the void.
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"The new Islamist sectarianism" (not voting Labour)
Paul Mason@paulmasonnews
2/ This is not the end of UK social democracy but it has to build a broader coalition to resist the extremism of the right and the new Islamist sectarianism. Calling them what they are would be a start!
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@danielmgmoylan @Danjsalt @Conservatives I despise Gauke, but his analysis is right.
There is no prospect of the Tories recreating the 2019 coalition.
But that coalition is the best future for the British right. And it IS available to Reform, who are securing it right now.
That is why the right must back Reform.
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Why is this man fronting up for a nominally @Conservatives movement?
Prosper UK@Prosper_UK_
The Conservatives cannot rebuild by chasing the 2019 coalition. That coalition has gone. The question now is simple: who is the party for? If the answer is angry populism, it gets smaller. If the answer is economic competence, serious government and broad centre-right values, there is a route back.
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Dr Manivannan may be a nice young person.
But I don’t want to live in a country where people on student visas can become elected representatives to national parliaments.
He’s crowdfunding from Green Party members for his graduate visa for pete’s sake. gbnews.com/politics/elect…
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Comparing the millions who voted Reform on Thursday to the Nazis is disgusting.
This crass moron should be nowhere near a taxpayer funded organisation.
Heidi Bachram@HeidiBachram
Chair of the @southbankcentre Misan Harriman has some thoughts on the surge of Reform at the elections this week. He compares it to the Holocaust. This is truly DISGUSTING.
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@Starvecrowfeast Prostate cancer awareness. Something only men get, despite what the Greens may say.
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Is this chap wearing a lavatory-themed lapel badge?
Is this a Restore thing?
Restore Britain@RestoreBritain_
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@echetus Will Atkinson seemed to be pretty up for doing so it seemed?
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Gove’s move to the editorship of the Spectator was excellent timing for his legacy. Who—even among the Jacobins of the online right—wants to make a foe of the man controlling commissions and careers at Britain’s premier right-wing magazine?
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Reminder: the only occasion 2010-2024 that Gove rebelled was against Truss’s plan not to raise benefits in line with inflation.
Michael Gove@michaelgove
The great moving Left show
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@St2station @echetus The correct etiquette now is of course to start a podcast.
(Joking aside it’s a major benefit of the new age to be able to listen to hours of politicos discussing their profession on their own shows, without journalists interrupting)
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@echetus There’s a reason that politicos-as-editor used to edit the magazine *before* frontline politics, not afterwards. Afterwards, they have a legacy and reputation to defend (and, if needed, obfuscate.)
And, naturally for a recently-frontline pol, he puts his own stuff in the
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@St2station @echetus Luckily we now have the Critic as an alternative - and perhaps relatedly I have wondered lately if I detect a certain new level of sniping on here between figures from each of them.
Speccie needs to be careful not to be left behind…
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@echetus Terrible mistake, as a long-time reader. ‘What are the lessons learned from the 14 Wasted Years of 2010-25?’ is the central question on the British Right, and its most prestigious legacy masthead has in charge a man who cannot even begin to ask that, because he’s implicated.
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@justinmadders AAHGGHHHHH!!!
IT’S NOT ABOUT COMMS
IT’S NOT ABOUT COMMS
IT’S NOT ABOUT COMMS
IT’S NOT ABOUT COMMS
Is there a single MP in Westminster who can think about anything other than comms!?!?!
Please God my country is dying and all they can do is talk about f***ing comms!
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..one of the things you will hear even loyal MPs say is that we are not very good at communicating. Two years into Govt we are still saying that; we do not have long left to fix that before people stop listening altogether. Our vote is splintering off in all directions. (5/10)
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There can be no now doubt the era of multi party politics is upon us. In an age when living standards have stagnated for almost two decades and where the long tail of austerity can still be felt,we are far from alone as a country in seeing the incumbents getting a hammering(1/10)
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Farage victory followed by immediate Interdiction imposed by UN Pontiff upon entire kingdom - no funeral masses, weddings or coronations allowed (civil partnerships to be permitted subject to authority of local bishops).
Metro@MetroUK
Dame Sheila Hancock, 93, scared ‘to die while Nigel Farage is Prime Minister’ trib.al/RkoEPv9
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Swinney promised he would be a First Minister for ALL of Scotland, but his first act pours scorn on the 383,425 Scots who voted for Reform.
No matter. He may shut us out from his cosy club, but he cannot stop their voices being heard in Holyrood!
Colin Mackay@STVColin
FM says he will invite all party leaders except Reform in to St Andrews House for talks about post election priorities. On cost of living, he will deal with supermarket price cap and £2 bis fare in first 100 days. He says UK Govt must engage on the constitution.
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This excellent post explains what is really going on
CJ@UnderSneege
I don’t even think it’s being pro unlimited migration that drives much of the real pro migration sentiment in the centre of politics. It’s something closer to “impassioned permissibility” where the only thing they care about is not enforcing rules / hierarchies / categories at an abstract level. Not enforcing a boundary on another is THE highest order value. They don’t actively want bad things to happen, they just don’t want to push back against a liberalisation of a category even more.
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And we all know this!
No politician in the country pretends the Boriswave was a conscious act of gov policy. But now we see Labour types insisting they receive ILR.
Is this due to economic policy? Of course not - it simply rationalises a mistake.
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A thing I notice more and more - so many people, as below, talk as if immigration is result of balanced decisions by the state.
But eg the Boriswave was just accidental! And the scale of chain migration is accidental!
This guys whole thread is a post facto rationalisation.
David Blagden@blagden_david
P.P.S. While all politicians know this, it afflicts them to different extents. Centre-chasing Labour and the Conservatives have had the hardest balancing act (the median voter wants low immigration *and* cheap labour). Easier for those just seeking to galvanise one of the poles.
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@blagden_david For anyone interested in pondering this conundrum, the real driver of immigration policy is not David’s post facto rationalisation, which assumes the actors are rational - it is of course @UnderSneege ‘s insight as below
CJ@UnderSneege
I don’t even think it’s being pro unlimited migration that drives much of the real pro migration sentiment in the centre of politics. It’s something closer to “impassioned permissibility” where the only thing they care about is not enforcing rules / hierarchies / categories at an abstract level. Not enforcing a boundary on another is THE highest order value. They don’t actively want bad things to happen, they just don’t want to push back against a liberalisation of a category even more.
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@blagden_david David, if you think our immigration system is defined by our politicians trying to manage this alleged ‘balancing act’, then why are they so reluctant to, eg, obtain the data that would enable them to do so, such as how many immigrants are in the country?
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Trouble is, public preferences on immigration are contradictory. They don’t want all the cultural change, overcrowding, upward pressure on house prices,* etc. But they also need lots of cheap labour, in lieu of the babies Britons no longer have, to sustain living standards…
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Arthur Spirling@arthur_spirling
Party systems don't die very often and I don't think it's time for obituaries quite yet. Still, when the history of this period is written, the fecklessness of Labour and Tory elites and their bizarre inability to deal with voter preferences around immigration will loom large.
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