Kyle Buffolino
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What's APR? Each semester, a SA on athletic aid gets 1 "point" for being eligible & 1 pt for staying in school/graduating.
Eligibility?
Earn 6 hrs each semester; GPA above 2.0; 18 hrs each yr; meet % benchmarks (40 after 4, 60 after 6, 80 after 8 sems)-a 5 yr graduation track
GIF
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@MarcEdelman I don't understand how they haven't done things at the conference level...I really think it makes sense for everyone and we don't have to jump through these no "pay-for-play" hoops. Let the conferences come up with a cap that makes sense for their schools.
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#NCAA colleges have choices if they want to neuter the antitrust threat. They can move their rules to the conference level and avoid “market power.” Or, they can stop fighting against college athlete unionization and enjoy the benefits of a non-statutory labor exemption.
Andrew Brandt@AndrewBrandt
Just as parents with kids, if there are no consequences, there is no deterrence. The NCAA/CSC seems neutered by the threat of antitrust law. Until there are consequences, there will be no deterrence.
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@TomMarsLaw There will be roster spots for enough to field a team. Want to play? Be better. Or go pro. Reality is tough sometimes.
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The White House has observed that “[t]his chaotic state of affairs [in college sports] has reduced opportunities for student-athletes.” I’m in favor of the NCAA’s “five in five” proposal, but it’s worth noting that it will create LESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLEGE ATHLETES 🧵
Dan Wetzel@DanWetzel
Establishing clear eligibility guidelines is a key for the NCAA, and a problem it can potentially solve. Current problems stem from too many waivers being handed out -- at the demands of the schools/coaches by the way.
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@mlycan12 Well, you can cut them but not their scholarship for athletic reasons…so they can just stay
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Do we think D1 coaches should be allowed to bring in freshmen in January and cut them 4 mos later before they’ve even had a fall season? Either these coaches are terrible recruiters or they’re basically just holding a tryout and seems the NCAA should have rules for this. I don’t think it’s unreasonable if you entice a young athlete into foregoing half of their senior year in high school and commit them to your university and program that you would not be allowed to cut them until you’ve actually had a season.
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@MarcEdelman Well, they don’t have the exemption so they are trying to maximize. Makes sense..
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Charlie Baker, head of #NCAA, to Congress: ‘Give us labor and antitrust exemptions. We are special, and not a revenue-maximizing enterprise.’
Also #NCAA: 78-team college bball tournament to maximize TV revenue, gambling ads to maximize TV revenue, midweek roadtrips to maximize TV revenue, etc., etc., etc.
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@McCannSportsLaw @JoshWright1977 I’ll never understand how medical residents aren’t in an uproar about their anti trust exemption. Many are basically forced to go where they match, moving them far from families or support systems when a hospital they might want to work at would gladly take them.
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Very insightful take from antitrust attorney and economist (and former FTC commissioner) @JoshWright1977 on how to think about potential antitrust exemptions in college sports:
Josh Wright@JoshWright1977
"Why not" an antitrust exemption is a good question from @conncarroll -- who I know disagrees with me here. It really is THE question in some ways. So I thought I'd lay out a short sketch of an answer for now. The case against an antitrust exemption as an NCAA solution is probably better handled in longer form. So I'll do a COTM column (this week or next). But here's a few reasons for now: (1/x)
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@WinterSportsLaw What’s your take on the anti trust exemption that hospitals have on medical residents? How are residents not having the same uproar as athletes? Because it was from so long ago, they just think there’s no other option? Makes ya wonder if colleges did this 20 years ago…
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Great thread here on how you can love college sports (all of them) but also oppose the NCAA/college sports getting an antitrust exemption.
The NCAA doesn’t need an antitrust exemption for college sports to exist.
Josh Wright@JoshWright1977
"Why not" an antitrust exemption is a good question from @conncarroll -- who I know disagrees with me here. It really is THE question in some ways. So I thought I'd lay out a short sketch of an answer for now. The case against an antitrust exemption as an NCAA solution is probably better handled in longer form. So I'll do a COTM column (this week or next). But here's a few reasons for now: (1/x)
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@WinterSportsLaw @NicoleAuerbach Weren't you, maybe it wasn't you, saying last week that athletes have no incentive to collectively bargain anymore?
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@NicoleAuerbach Another example of why there need to be CBAs in college sports.
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Don’t be surprised if lawsuits are filed relating to the decision to not grandfather athletes into the NCAA’s age based eligibility rule.
It’s similar to the situation after NCAA rules allowed Alston awards (Hubbard case) & NIL pay (House case).
Tough spot for the NCAA.
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@mlycan12 @CharlieBakerMA There's always going to be a class that gets the bad end of this. You're right, it's the 2027s. Soccer is impacted more since redshirts aren't as common. But I think they factored all of that in.
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Wondering if the NCAA and @CharlieBakerMA have realized the implementation of the 5th year coupled with Roster limits (28 is not fair and equitable for soccer) WILL result in players being cut since most women’s soccer programs have already finished recruiting their HS class of 2027 WITHOUT FACTORING IN 5th years! Will you be granting DSA status to those declaring 5th years so they won’t count against roster limits? If not it seems we’re facing the same lawsuits created when athletes unfairly lost spots when roster limits were mandated. #DSA #RosterLimits #NCAAEligibility
Ross Dellenger@RossDellenger
The DI Board of Directors directed the DI Cabinet to continue work on the age-based, 5-year eligibility concept. Big note: Players who exhausted eligibility this year under current rules - even those 4-year seniors - will not receive an additional/5th season. Not retroactive.
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@eswensen3 @marcisenberg Depends if his school already got his extension waiver approved for 26.
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@marcisenberg To be clear let me know if this kid is getting his year or not.
2021 - redshirt
2022 - starter
2023 - starter
2024 - torn acl out all season
2025 - starter
2026 - gets to use medical or done?
Mind you this athlete competed with all kids given EXTRA Covid year.
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The Frosh class that entered in 2022 got no COVID year, walked into a backlog of players who did—and now gets hit again because the NCAA and members waited until after the portal to act. Unfair, but right on brand.
Pete Thamel@PeteThamel
NEWS: NCAA President Charlie Baker told ESPN today that he’s “pretty optimistic” that the new aged-based eligibility proposal will happen. The DI Board of Directors met today and will recommend to not implement this rule retroactively for graduates/exhausted eligibility. “If you’ve used up your eligibility, you’ve used it up,” Baker told ESPN of the tenor of the discussion.
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@AaronGogley Well that's dumb because they are already not competitive with the "have" conferences.
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@kylebuff Conferences can cap but they won’t because it forces them to be uncompetitive with the conferences who don’t do it.
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How do you propose we fix it legally?
What does that look like because that was the whole point of the CSC.
William Chaffin 🇺🇸🗽🎬@billychaffin23
@RonDeSantis Yes! We need a real governing body. NIL was supposed to allow college athletes to sign marketing deals. Not have boosters build funds to pay players. Fix this, limit transfers to one free transfer, sit out if they transfer a 2nd time, this balances things out.
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@WinterSportsLaw @ChrisYow14 They would need a new business model to continue to support athletics as they’ve been historically, but times are changing and they won’t be the same as they were…yes, Ark could have kept tennis…but it wasn’t benefiting enough from doing that. And they already met d1 minimums.
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@ChrisYow14 Any business that claims it can only exist if it unilaterally price fixes its most important labor force:
(a) isn’t feeling the truth; or
(b) needs a new business model.
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As much as I respect Mit, this is absolutely, 100% wrong.
It was always going to end this way. Every single college sports fan knew it and said as much.
To pretend there’s magic $ out there is just gaslighting.
Mit Winter@WinterSportsLaw
This👇 You don’t have to price fix college athlete pay to fund college Olympic sports programs. People need to move past that old mindset. If schools want to fund all teams at current levels the answer is new funding. Could be the university side or other sources.
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@LBknowsBall @Whiskey_Foxhole Only a tiny fraction of NCAA players reach the professional level required for Olympic selection (based on world rankings and USTA criteria). Even less for team USA.
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Just to be clear, I did not state that Arkansas tennis teams are uniquely feeding the Olympics. What I explicitly stated in the article was that sports like tennis, swimming, gymnastics, track and field, and even rowing are all sports that the United States dominates, or has dominated, at the Olympic Games for generations. And the infrastructure that produced that dominance was built on college athletic fields, pools, and courts.
Oh, and my name is Lauren.
It costs $0.00 to be respectful. Thanks!!
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For every $4 million quarterback that signs with a Power Four school, will there be a tennis player, a swimmer, a gymnast, someone who did everything right, losing their sport entirely?
This is where the story stops being about money and starts being about something much harder to quantify. The sports that are being sacrificed on the altar of college football aren't just line items on a budget. They are the primary pipeline feeding the United States Olympic program.
College Sports Wire@College_Wire
Arkansas cutting tennis is an ominous preview for non-football sports 📸 Jasen Vinlove, Jasen Vinlove-USA TODAY Sports collegesportswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/c…
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@SethDavisHoops University legal counsel is discouraging this for fear of triggering employment lawsuits
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It's my understanding that there is nothing preventing clauses in these contracts that call for buyout or some type of remuneration for the schools if the player leaves. Maybe the schools need to start being better negotiators. But the problem is not the "system."
Scott Van Pelt@notthefakeSVP
@MattBrownEP @SethDavisHoops Cool, so transfer fees then. Right? Add them.
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@SethDavisHoops We have spending limits on the medical resident industry. Hospitals have colluded to fix the salary to about $60K for people that have 8 years of education and were in the top 1% of their class.
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Why? Do we set spending limits on any other industry? Let them spend what they want to spend.
Rob@MrR_Rocks
@SethDavisHoops There has to be a spending limit for all these colleges!!
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@GlennHefferan @NCAA But how can you delay graduation then? You can’t delay graduation and be a qualifier.
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Once again, the @NCAA misses the mark. A five-year eligibility clock is reasonable, but this proposal overlooks two predictable consequences.
First, athletes and their advisors will adjust high school graduation timing so the eligibility clock starts later, pushing graduation closer to age 19.
Second, this creates a disincentive for academically advanced student-athletes who currently graduate at 17 and begin college coursework early while continuing their athletic development. Policies should encourage academic acceleration, not discourage it.
There also does not appear to be any grandfather clauses.
By the way, ncaa hockey players are among the highest graduation rates and academic success.
Yahoo Sports@YahooSports
The NCAA is giving "serious consideration" to a five-year age-based eligibility concept, per @RossDellenger Division I Cabinet members will meet today to discuss further.
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@coachbrucepearl The presidents have made a business decision to violate the law. Because they know they can settle for less than it costs to abide by the current laws.
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This is an excellent discussion. The NCAA is currently operating in violation of anti trust laws. Congress must either adjust the law or tell us you won't so that we can create rules and guidelines within the law! We must fairly compensate student athletes but not as employees!
College GameDay@CollegeGameDay
The College GameDay crew discuss the current state of college basketball.
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@WinterSportsLaw @JayBilas Here’s a link to another billion dollar industry with an antitrust exemption law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15…
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As @JayBilas correctly points out, there’s a lot of hypocrisy in college athletics right now.
It’s only when athletes begin to get paid that it’s necessary to have a federal law to “save college sports.”
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