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willo2@willo2_Poly·
I was just scammed for $500K by Polymarket. I am "willo2", the top holder of YES on "MicroStrategy sells Bitcoin by May 31st". Here's what happened:
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@munchPRMR @prathwik0 Exactly. That's exactly my point. If this was always the rule, then the market should have immediately resolved to NO the moment that May 31st ended. But it wasn't. Polymarket wilfully made the decision to keep it open, and users who traded on real information got scammed.
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munch.mega@munchPRMR·
@prathwik0 @willo2_Poly So the market was always going to end in No because the 8K was scheduled to come out on June 1? Ggwp
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@rb_tweets You are not making this situation any better for Polymarket. Apparently, I should have known that Polymarket was going to scam it, so I could have taken advantage of all the other suckers. Do you not see how people do not want to trade on a platform that treats users this way?
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rb (prediction arc)@rb_tweets·
Feed's full of people supporting Willo2?? My brother in Christ, he aped 650k shares into an uncertain market and is now blaming Polymarket for the outcome. how about checking Discord where traders were discussing precedent, or spending two minutes reading the market comments?
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@varrock Thank you man, this situation is absolutely insane. Insane loss of trust. It's clear to everyone that Polymarket is nothing more than a cheap bucketshop And the Polymarket affiliates clowning me about how I should have known they were going to scam it are even worse
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
Good morning guys. If you keep a market open for trading, you should accept evidence that comes out within that timeframe. If my trades were valid, The legally issued proof from MSTR should be as well. Otherwise you're scamming users. Do the right thing Polymarket
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@lstnpst The purpose of a system is what it does. If there is 1) no reason to believe the market has "closed" 2) No indication of closure 3) Live trading Result: users get scammed. What exactly is the difference between this and intentionally scamming your users?
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Listening Post@lstnpst·
To be fair, the "clarification" didn't change any rules. It commented on the existing ones. The contract clearly and originally noted that resolution was through the disclosure (or non-disclosure) of specific information. Disclosure deadline of May 31 is both explicit (they didn't hide the timeframe or requirements) and implied (bc otherwise you would need to unreasonably assume an open-ended undefined contract that could theoretically never resolve). As for allowing trading after May 31 (seemingly your main gripe)...maybe a poor administrative decision but it didn't actually impact any stated rules or change the substance of the contract. Regardless of when they settle, it all hinges on disclosure by the end of May 31. You were essentially betting on yesterday's weather. You got jammed up. Definitely a rough one.
willo2@willo2_Poly

I was just scammed for $500K by Polymarket. I am "willo2", the top holder of YES on "MicroStrategy sells Bitcoin by May 31st". Here's what happened:

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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@MartinShkreli Exactly. Theoretically, there is a "voting period" where UMA validators will weigh their thoughts against one another. Polymarket ARBITRARILY changed the rules so that this market HAS to resolve NO. No voting comes into it. Joke of a company.
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@imtomcurry Thank you for the support brother. Absolutely agree.
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
Guys, thank you for all the support. It's been a long day, I was hoping that people would understand my perspective but I didn't expect the level of solidarity that I would find from CT. I'm going to keep fighting for all YES holders. We will win against Polymarket. 🐦
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@bryantheden Exactly, the receipts don't lie Strategy sold - it's as clear as day. Absolutely shameless behaviour from Polymarket
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Bryant@bryantheden·
The "will strategy sell btc by may 31" polymarket market just resolved NO and strategy literally filed an 8-K with the SEC confirming they sold 32 BTC between May 26–31 i don't know how to make this more clear my answer: YES, they sold and i'll explain exactly why 32 BTC sold, avg price $77,135, total ~$2.5M in proceeds, purpose: fund preferred stock distributions this isn't speculation, this isn't on-chain noise this is Strategy's own SEC filing, Form 8-K, filed June 1, 2026 the receipts don't lie the market rules literally say: "This market will resolve to Yes if MicroStrategy sells ANY of its Bitcoin by 11:59 PM ET on the date specified" ANY 32 BTC sold before the deadline but polymarket resolved NO anyway here's what happened behind the scenes: on-chain data showed ~411 BTC move from Strategy wallets → Coinbase Prime Deposit, market odds jumped from 3% → 40% in hours, then the same BTC moved back out, polymarket saw the chaos and proposed "No" people disputed it twice then polymarket added an after-the-fact "clarification" saying on-chain moves don't count unless confirmed by official disclosure so the official disclosure came Strategy's 8-K to the SEC, black and white: "BTC Sold: 32 | Aggregate Sale Price: $2.5M | Average Sale Price: $77,135 | Period: May 26–31, 2026" that is the definition of selling BTC by May 31 polymarket's response? still NO one trader lost $500k on YES this is the playbook now add after the fact rule clarifications mid-dispute, ignore the primary resolution source (MSTR official disclosure + SEC filing), protect the majority position (NO was 99¢, YES was 0.7¢) if you can rewrite the rules whenever it's convenient, what's the point of rules at all polymarket's credibility just took a direct hit not from a gray-area market, not from a vague rule, but from a market where the answer is literally inside a government filing the 8-K exists to comply with SEC disclosure requirements the most regulated, audited, publicly verifiable document in finance and polymarket chose to ignore it this isn't about $500k it's about whether prediction markets can be trusted when the answer is inconvenient if YES resolves correctly → polymarket is a truth machine if NO holds → it's just another venue where house rules bend toward whoever has more liquidity on the other side we're about to find out which one it is
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Jeremy@Jeremybtc·
Is this not free money???
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@0xEnes_ Thank you for the support man This resolution was ridiculous
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ENES ⨀@0xEnes_·
Polymarket, what are you doing with the MicroStrategy BTC sale market? The market closed on May 31 (Sunday) at 11:59 PM ET. MicroStrategy sold 32 BTC between May 26-31 (clear in the filing). SEC 8-K was published on June 1 (Monday) — everyone knows filings don’t happen on Sunday. Yet Polymarket added a clarification on June 1 (after the market closed): “Confirmation achieved outside of the market’s time frame does not qualify.” You changed the rules after trading ended and after the filing came out. @Polymarket
willo2@willo2_Poly

I was just scammed for $500K by Polymarket. I am "willo2", the top holder of YES on "MicroStrategy sells Bitcoin by May 31st". Here's what happened:

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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@TheFlowHorse Thank you Mr Flow Horse the support means a lot. Polymarket have to do right by my fellow YES holders, I won't let them get away with this
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@laxxbt Thank you man. It's absolutely insane that they can resolve markets based upon something not written in the rules A 5 year old could resolve this market
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lax.hl@laxxbt·
> read the news that Saylor sold 32 BTC between May 26 - May 31 > slam the orderbook for $500K on Polymarket that Strategy indeed sold bitcoin before May 31 > lose $500K because you should have known that confirmation achieved outside of the market's time frame does not qualify
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tridder 👑@tridder46290·
@willo2_Poly The argument for no is that you have to ignore the rules of the market entirely and go based on another set of rules not stated
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
The rules were very explicit. So explicit in fact that I have trouble understanding how people are arguing NO The market was "Did Microstrategy Sell". Not Did Microstrategy Announce. They sold.
DeFiyst@DeFiyst

@Polymarket needs to ensure the MicroStrategy UMA dispute goes in the right direction. If people can't trust a resolution in favour of black and white text in a form 8-k filed to SEC's EDGAR, you risk serious erosion of your >$20bn brand enterprise value.

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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@mert Mert Maybe you should ask Polymarket 0% chance of anything happening ever
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mert@mert·
> given everything I know, including scary non-public information, I now put the odds of qday by 2032 at 50%. 10% by 2030. zcash
Justin Drake@drakefjustin

Today a crazy quantum story just got wilder. On March 31, the Google Quantum AI team published a landmark result on Shor's algorithm for elliptic curve cryptography. Technically, the paper was a bombshell: a dramatic 10x improvement over the state-of-the-art. As a stunt and wakeup call to the blockchain space, those optimisations were illustrated on secp256k1, the elliptic curve underlying Bitcoin and Ethereum signatures. But perhaps the most striking part of the paper was sociological, not technical. Instead of following standard academic process, the optimisations were kept secret, hidden behind a zero-knowledge (ZK) proof. Google's accompanying blog post mentions they "engaged with the U.S. government". The ZK proof demonstrates the existence of algorithmic improvements without leaking details. Academic censorship with ZK, a historic first! As a co-author of the Google paper I witnessed some of the context surrounding this censorship. To be honest, multiple aspects of that context don't sit well with me. As much as I believe the general public ought to know more, I am limited in my ability to whistleblow. Though let me be clear about one thing: the Google team's professionalism has been absolutely exemplary, and they deserve nothing but praise. Censorship has a way of backfiring. The Streisand effect, where an attempt to bury something only draws more attention to it, is exactly what's unfolding today. First, Google's key optimisation has been rediscovered by the French. And in a thrilling turn of events, a collaborative Shor-at-home challenge just launched. The initiative, available at ecdsa[.]fail, breached a new Shor world record in a matter of hours. Let's start with the rediscovery. Just two months after Google's paper, French quantum expert André Schrottenloher cracks the main secret optimisation. His paper, titled "Optimized Point Addition Circuits for Elliptic Curve Discrete Logarithms", landed on the arXiv today. Big congrats to André, who beat several other nerdsnipped experts to it. In a blog post also published today, Craig Gidney, the world expert on Shor optimisations, revealed that he'd been sitting on this very optimisation for a whole year under censorship pressure. Interestingly, André missed a handful of minor optimisations, both from Google's original publication and from improvements found since. It's plausible there's still plenty of juice left to squeeze out of Shor, and this is exactly what the ecdsa[.]fail challenge is about. The verifier program developed for the ZK proof does double duty, automatically filtering for valid submissions. Dozens of compounding small and micro improvements are rolling in. As of the time of writing there's an 8.4% improvement to Google's circuit, as measured by the product of logical qubit count and Toffoli gate count. Nice! The nerdsnipping ran deeper than anyone expected. Over the last few weeks it became clear it extended well beyond André and other quantum experts. Behind the scenes, a small army of amateurs quietly got to work. Inspired by Karpathy-style autoresearch, they turned AI on Shor. Ironically, the verifier program for the ZK proof makes an ideal reward function for AIs. The barrier to entry for this modern style of research is refreshingly low, with several non-experts, even a teenager, finding nice optimisations. Get in touch if you'd like to join a Telegram group with fellow autoresearchers :) Part 2: neutral atoms and qday The story doesn't end with Google. On the same day Google went public, a stealthy startup called Oratomic published its own Shor paper in a coordinated release. It made a splash, ultimately becoming the most upvoted paper on scirate[.]com, a website ranking arXiv papers. Oratomic's claim was wild. By building on Google's logical optimisations and applying custom physical optimisations for neutral atoms, they claimed just 10K physical qubits were sufficient to run Shor's algorithm on secp256k1. That number is mind-bogglingly low. Knowing essentially nothing about neutral atoms when Oratomic's paper landed, I was intrigued and decided to learn more about the tech. I fell straight down the rabbit hole and spent a couple hundred hours on the topic. I got a little obsessed and watched every YouTube video I could find and spoke to a bunch of experts. My conclusion? The tech is real, very real. Even Google recently decided to start a neutral atom lab, a notable pivot from their sole focus on superconducting qubits. If you care about qday, i.e. the day a quantum computer will break the first piece of cryptography in production, neutral atoms demand your attention. I shared some of my learnings on Shor and neutral atoms in a 30min talk at the ZKProof cryptography conference. You can find it on YouTube by searching "zkproof neutral atom". Here's an interesting observation about this duo of breakthrough papers: neither Google nor Oratomic say a word about what their results mean for qday. No timelines. Zero. Nada. That is especially baffling given that the whole point of whitehat quantum cryptanalysis is to inform qday estimations and help the general public make good decisions. So let me attempt to partially fill the silence, similarly to what Scott Aaronson did in his April 29 post. Given everything I know, including scary non-public information, I now put the odds of qday by 2032 at 50%. 10% by 2030. Anecdotally, the US government has its own date: 2035. Originating at the NSA and later adopted by NIST, it's when branches of the US government will be disallowed from using quantum-vulnerable cryptography. In plain language: with hindsight, that date is a joke and should be discounted entirely. I don't see how NIST avoids being forced to pull it forward by years. Part 3: post-quantum cryptography There are good reasons to sound the alarm today, but please do not panic. Rushing carelessly towards immature post-quantum cryptography is a recipe for disaster. IMO a good target date for migration is 2029, roughly 3.5 years out. 2029 happens to be the date selected by Google, Cloudflare, and the Ethereum Foundation. These days most of my time goes to safely migrating Ethereum towards post-quantum cryptography as part of the broader lean Ethereum effort. There's a lot to do. We need to rip out and replace BLS signatures at the consensus layer, KZG commitments at the data layer, and ECDSA signatures at the execution layer. The plan to get there is compelling, and is based on hash-based cryptography. Within the Ethereum Foundation we've developed a Swiss army knife called leanVM (github[.]com/leanEthereum/leanVM) powered by the magic of hash-based SNARKs. Thanks to truly exceptional work by Emile, Thomas, and others, its performance is derisked. Regarding security, leanVM is a jewel, a minimal zkVM crafted for end-to-end formal verification and maximum security. Want to help? There are two $1M initiatives. First, the Proximity Prize (proximityprize[.]org). Solve a long-standing mathematical conjecture in coding theory, improve hash-based SNARKs, and go home a millionaire. Second, the Poseidon Initiative (poseidon-initiative[.]info), offers $1M for breaking Poseidon, the SNARK-friendly hash function.

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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@ProfessorCornel @Polymarket Polymarket added this "Confirmation achieved outside of the market's time frame does not qualify." It's insane because clearly the market was open while the 8K was issued. There was no reason to think the 8K would be disqualified, but Polymarket decided not to recognise it.
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Cornel@ProfessorCornel·
SEC Form 8-K filed on June 1 so technically @Polymarket is right
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Cornel@ProfessorCornel

The recent MicroStrategy market has raised a lot of debate on Crypto X. The market asked: → Would MicroStrategy sell any Bitcoin before the end of May 2026? Later, SEC filings and on-chain data showed that around 32 BTC had been sold, so many traders expected the market to resolve YES. Instead @Polymarket resolved it as NO. The reason is simple: Prediction markets don't just care about what happened. They care about whether the event qualifies under the market's resolution rules. Polymarket had already established precedent in similar markets that information confirmed after the market timeframe would not count the same way for resolution. Many people disagree with the outcome, but changing the rules after the deadline would've created an even bigger problem. If markets could be changed days or weeks later whenever new information appears, traders would never know when a market is truly settled. The willo2 situation is also an important lesson. After the news became public, he reportedly kept buying large amounts of YES shares while the market was still trading around 70-80%. That price alone was a warning that there was uncertainty around the resolution. If something looks like free money, it usually isn't! Greed can make people ignore risk, especially when they believe the outcome is obvious. In the end, the biggest issue wasn't the NO resolution itself. But the lesson is clear: → Prediction markets run on rules, not headlines. → Precedent matters. → And greed can be far more expensive than being wrong. The lesson isn’t that Polymarket stole $500k . The lesson is that greed can make people treat uncertainty like certainty like @willo2_Poly

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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@drews888 Actually according to polymarket he didn't sell anything, it's OK guys
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drews@drews888·
He sold 32 BTC, and you guys are scared? LMAO
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@MattLGov Thanks for the support sir This really needs a response. Polymarket have been radio silent on this so far, it's very disappointing
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willo2@willo2_Poly·
@KllN349312 @mhorsman013 @CamillusLellis Here's a Hypothetical Question. If you were an evil bucketshop who purposefully scams its users, and you wanted to make the maximum amount of money off this - Precisely what would you do differently to what Polymarket did here? Most likely? You would do exactly what they did.
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KllN@KllN349312·
I read it as market opened with certain rules. The market stayed open even though the deadline had passed. Microstrategy then filed the 8-k filing confirming that they had sold BTC before the deadline. Then Polymarket „clarified“ that confirmation outside of the timeframe doesn’t count and the market resolved to „No“. If confirmation outside the timeframe doesn’t count why would they wait until after that filing to resolve the market to „No“ in the first place? To me it looks like it if they were perfectly fine with letting confirmation outside the timeframe count but „clarified“ the rules when the criteria was actually met to their surprise.
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Later, Polymarket added clarification. "No information from MSTR, on-chain data, or consensus of credible reporting confirmed that MicroStrategy sold Bitcoin within the market's timeframe. Confirmation achieved outside of the market's time frame does not qualify."

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willo2@willo2_Poly·
I was just scammed for $500K by Polymarket. I am "willo2", the top holder of YES on "MicroStrategy sells Bitcoin by May 31st". Here's what happened:
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