EngineTrap

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@fliphrrr Usas sjw en el año 2026? No mames jajajaja

So with all this AI cancel thing happening, we uncovered: a frustrated artist using burner accounts to harass me, a pdf fetish account with a weirdly specific SJW agenda and a feet fetish programmer that doesn't understand hands... Wow

Careful with who you open the airlock for.. Painted comm for HazraPanda

@AltianHex that's perfectly fine and not what is in question with regards to azoomer, if all he did was trace his own material i'd have 0 issue with it, tracing the work of *others* and passing it as your own is the issue.

@EngineTrap Broadly what I do is as you've stated, tracing parts of my own 3d refs - so tbh i'm more relieved now that you are not dunking on that particular part because there are a LOT of us who do that and are scared to say it, so i'll back off from here on out o7

e621 just nuked almost my entire gallery off the site 😢 Do i have to show every single timelapse if i ever want to upload on the site or what? they even deleted a video i showed the entire process before, i had uploaded this for patreons just a few days ago. As if i wasnt feeling insecure already, one of the reasons i haven't been posting that much as of recently

@AltianHex I have not bc im not a hack :D the only shit youll catch me tracing are my own self made 3d references and poses because it takes 0 effort to be creative and original.

@EngineTrap Tell me you've never traced part of a reference and kept a line. I'm only a hobby artist and dont hide that I trace hand refs and then add my own style to that trace bc I can't draw hands for shit. I really struggle with shoulders and shoulder blades too, but I still want to draw

@AltianHex if you think the evidence i provided isn't blatant tracing then i dont rlly care about your opinion, no offense. Im not gonna debate the semantics of how many lines have to be identical on a drawing before its plagiarism because the answer is zero.

@EngineTrap @AZoomerrr Jfc EngineTrap, majorly disappointed in you here. Everyone has their own way of doing things and I personally like to draw my own spin on references I find. Please dont shame this artist, because it is honestly really shitty behaviour - just because some draws different from you

@AZoomerrr This is not an issue anyone i've ever know who actually draws for real has faced and im tired of pretending that this is a thing that "could happen to anyone by accident" You can always admit the truth and start being sincere, or keep living with this on your shoulders. shrug

@AZoomerrr That's for you to clear up because neither I nor anyone I know had anything to do with that. Multiple unrelated people have come to the same conclusion years ago and its frustrating that you cant see that the one common denominator in all this is you.

Ok , im writing a big long text this time , and im not going to delete it like last time. Im currently being hit with the AI Tracing accusations again , and for these i say. No , i do not use ai gen or assistance in any way shape or form for my artworks. Let me tell you a Story: I started drawing in 2019 , around 2022 and 2023 ai image generatos were becoming more widespread and notable a lot of artists feared being completely replaced by it including me of course , i quit university to go all in on art so of course if that were to happen it would mean that my entire life was ruined, so... i panicked , and that panic made me start learning about it and try to use it to not "stay behind" , with that i developed a method in which allowed me to make artworks faster! , but with ai assistance, with this said method (that im not going to share for fear of causing more harm to the artist community) i did 2 drawings , a delphox pic and a cinderace one , those 2 artworks i never shared anywhere except inside a group of discord of one of my Friends Now, being that i admitted that i use ai assistance for 2 artworks posted on a small server and nowhere else and that at that time i also had a "big jump in skill" (i didn't , i have older posts that are "kinda Good" , that were done EVEN BEFORE the reléase of stable difusión and other generators ) Naturally the next assumption was that ALL of the following artworks that i made were made not using assistance but straight up tracing them , thats not true at all and it makes no sense , i've shown enough capability of being able to draw stuff from way before just look at the first post i've ever done on this account. The reason why i deleted my first response and ALL the evidence i provided to debunk those claims was that i was hoping to just leave all of this drama behind. But apparently it can't , some people saved a compilation image and is still going around in group circles with people making their mind without me even being able to say anything about it , and in hindsight maybe it was a bad idea to delete those posts on the first place since people can't search for my comments either Welp that was my mistake there. What i can myself say that im Really good at! , is drawing from eye! , its a drawing excersice in which you use an image reference on the side of a blank canvas and draw the whole thing again , its really good for developing proper line control (thing that no ai tracer has) This being the second time im being hit with these acussations i figured a couple of things word will spread around no matter what i do and people will make their minds even before hearing anything from the other side. I should have not deleted my old posts discussing this drama because if it were to be brought up again i would have already talked about it publicly. TLDR: -2022 hits and chimi gets hit with total panic because of ai development threatening to destroy artists -decide to learn how to use ai image generators just in case to not "stay behind" -Develop a method to with ai assist to make artworks faster -Do 2 artworks with it and only post it in a small server -Dont touch ai image gen after that -2024 -People find out about those artworks and messages send in the discord -Grab those messages and images out of context and claim ALL artworks are done tracing ai -wtf -livestream myself drawing showing my entire process -Convince everyone that i don't trace and stop the drama -Delete posts talking about the drama wanting to leave it behind -2026 -E6 mods deletes my entire gallery claiming ai gen -I already deleted my old twitter posts talking about it -The livestream didn't save -Asks for proof of work -Aw_shit_here_we_go_again.mp3 Im willing to reply to questions you all have in case you have it , not for long tho since im extremely exhausted right now

@AlbinoRayneDeer @AZoomerrr i literally posted undeniable evidence of tracing but okay. Its not a 'gotcha' I just want accountability.

@EngineTrap @AZoomerrr With studies & practice, yes you can change your style pretty quickly. I've done it. Really disappointed to see an artist I admire trying so hard to find a "gotcha" against another artist whom I've seen on stream with my own eyes sketching & erasing & moving parts like we all do.

@AZoomerrr no im saying its not, the first is your real style and the second isnt. Its less about the skill jump and more so that there's nothing in your entire history that resembles that style, its completely different and i dont buy that you rewired your entire brain in 2 months.

@EngineTrap i hope you are not saying that that sylv is ai stuff, i do know how to render too , i just prefer doing cellshade My main points are that 1.-The "skill jump" is not even that big 2.-I was grinding at the time as well I really really don't know what else to say, im tired

@AZoomerrr I beg you to treat me seriously as a more experienced artist instead of thinking i don't have eyes. Jan 9th and March 24th dont look even remotely close. Your style wasnt even bad, I like that lineless lucario from 22, just go back to that man, its better than your current stuff

@EngineTrap look at the first post i ever made on this account and compare it to the delphox and braix i did in 2023 , theres not a huge difference, that , and that is not counting that i was grinding hard at those times too

@AZoomerrr none of this art is remotely close to the stuff you started outputting on mass in 2023. The path of your style literally just breaks as soon as that mark is hit, just around the same time a million and one LORAs with a near identical "style" to yours show up.

@EngineTrap what do you mean , i've been drawing since 2019 drive.google.com/drive/folders/… since before the release of any public ai, and i had many drawings even before i made those posts on 2022, again , look at my first post ever on this account, i have no need to do that

Ayyyy Azoomer finally got their shit deleted from e6 for being ai 🥳 e621.net/posts?tags=azo…

@AZoomerrr also apologize to the ppl you traced or "referenced" or whatever you wanna call it. Own up to your mistakes, and maybe, just maybe, your peers will forgive you in due time when you start being genuine.

@AZoomerrr every artist I talk to sees right through your "timelapses" and its frankly upsetting that you think youre convincing anyone who's experienced in art. You want your gallery back? Build it, the same as each one of us did. And apologize to your peers for what you've done

@AZoomerrr it costs you nothing to credit and engage with your artist peers, but you only treat us with contempt, like goals to beat "I need more followers than them" "I wanna be the most liked in e6" How about you do art bc you're passionate about it and not like its a competition.

@EngineTrap hmm i guess we can agree on the 2nd part, i can see why it can be wrong , i shouldn't have posted it without saying it was more of a study / practice , same with the other one

@AZoomerrr I'll stoop to your level and pretend this dumb excuse is true for a minute (its not), copying a pose 1-1 is STILL wrong and the original artist deserves credit any which way, you keep missing the point that you're just parasitizing your peers, AI or not.

@EngineTrap it means that i did this(visual recreation),youll be surprised how accurate one can be practicing drawing from eye for enough time , i did the same on the other pic you replied , i stand on my position , i've done that live b4 and i can do it again , i just want my gallery back

@AZoomerrr flipping an image does not make it not traced, what. also if you drew it from eye none of the lines would line up, literally just swallow your pride and admit what youve done and move on instead of acting like we're gullible idiots.

although thanks for sayings its 1-1 tho, do you know the excersise of drawing from eye? if where you put an image on the side and try to draw it again as closely as possible , i did that with those 2 images, i just didn't wanted to "waste" the time i used for making those 2 , also i drew them flipped . nothing wrong with that